Shades, its time to restore the thread

[_RockSlider]

Please provide links to said "vehement" attacks by Nortinski to "anyone who disagrees" with him. I view this claim with great suspicion.
Noah 1/7 (Nortinski's sock puppet)

First things first Noah ... OP ... what say yea ... Can Shades restore your original thread? If not, why not?

[_malkie]

Are there any known instances of where the Church has threatened or pursued legal action or the shutting down of a website due to temple ceremony content?

I have never seen it, ever. The Tanners were sued but only due to having the CHI on their site, then linking to the CHI on another site.

Richard Packham has had the temple ceremonies up for years. There are a lot of other sites that also have them up.

I'm no attorney and my knowledge of copyright is limited to my own material and my website - but I think if they copyright the actual words to the ceremonies then it becomes public - and they would have to provide disclosure of said words to prove copyright.

lol, God needs to copyright the way he handshakes.

I used to have the ceremonies up on the MC, but decided to take them down in 2006. Felt it wasn't really the focus of the MC.

My knowledge of copyright is likely much more limited than yours, but I have worked on automating the production of redacted PDFs of documents produced by the company I work for.

My "spec" says something like this: if we redact about 15% of the content of the document, we can publish the redacted version and obtain full copyright protection.

If that applies to temple ceremony wording, I'm sure that the "sacred" part could be redacted from a published script, in order to have the whole protected.

[_Nortinski]

I'd like to know whether the treatment Nortinski received is special. That is, can any poster request that an entire thread be removed and Shades will remove it until given permission by the poster to put it back? Or is this a one-off thing? Does Nortinski have veto power over all his own threads or just this one?

It appears that ...

Noah 1/7
Shades 2/7

Maybe the whole "temple committee" needs to vote on how this topic is handled here on this free speech board.

So what is it Nort ... can Shades restore the thread?

Let's clarify something first.

I have met Shades MAYBE three times in my life. At least one of those times was at a party with at least 100 people in attendance. I have gone YEARS with no contact with him at all. Would I recognize him on the street? Yes. But I don't think I have his phone number. I certainly do not know where he lives. I know very little about Shades and his personal life. We are hardly what one would consider "close friends" although I do credit him for opening my eyes to the truth about Mormonism.

Now, with that out of the way, the answer is "No." Why? Because I said so. The time WILL come, but we are not at that time yet. You've already made it clear that 100% of the information in that thread can be found online. You or someone even posted links to the cached thread. Have at it. Read it till you're eyes bleed. But, no, I do not wish to have that thread put back online just yet.

But thanks for asking.

And WTF is up with the claim that I flip out on those who don't agree with me? I think the owner/moderator of RfM is being WAY too overly cautious in banning even the mere MENTION of the videos (heck, mention MY name and your post will likely be deleted) but I wouldn't say that I "vehemently attack" those who oppose me.

The committee has spoken.

[_Infymus]

Noah 1/7 (Nortinski's sock puppet)

So you are now admitting you are indeed [name deleted]?

[_Nortinski]

Please provide links to said "vehement" attacks by Nortinski to "anyone who disagrees" with him. I view this claim with great suspicion.
Noah 1/7 (Nortinski's sock puppet)

First things first Noah ... OP ... what say yea ... Can Shades restore your original thread? If not, why not?

And although Noah is "1/7" he is not #1 in "the temple committee."

And Dr. Shades is certainly not #2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 OR 7 (although he's #1 in MY book.)

Nortinski

PS: I'll tell you this much. The salamander tattoo at the end of most of the videos belongs to #1 in "the temple committee." The first person that can tell me what the "100" and the kanji say/represent will get some speshul secret (not sacred) inside information on the making of the videos.

[_Newnamenoah]

Noah 1/7 (Nortinski's sock puppet)

So you are now admitting you are indeed [name deleted]?

Ha! Hardly.

I would also like to clarify that Nortinski doesn't have his hand up my ass.

[_Nortinski]

Ha! Hardly.

I would also like to clarify that Nortinski doesn't have his hand up my ass.

I'll bet you would love that. Sicko.

[_Newnamenoah]

Ha! Hardly.

I would also like to clarify that Nortinski doesn't have his hand up my ass.

I'll bet you would love that. Sicko.

Your Mom said what??? ;-)

[_Yoda]

Nort, if members can pull up the cached thread in its entirety, and you are not opposed to that, then why are you opposed to the original thread simply being restored? It makes absolutely no sense.

[_Nortinski]

Nort, if members can pull up the cached thread in its entirety, and you are not opposed to that, then why are you opposed to the original thread simply being restored? It makes absolutely no sense.

If they can pull up cached threads, then why do they need the original restored so badly? THAT makes no sense.