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Re: Pahoran's Abuse of Private Correspondence
Since I was banned for suggesting that "Pahoran" and "Russell McGregor" were controlled by the same person...how about it Pahoran? You a.k.a. "Russell McGregor" around MADland?
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Re: Pahoran's Abuse of Private Correspondence
Pahoran wrote:I'm sure you think so.
I know so. I was there.
Pahoran wrote:Let me know when you are ready to have an adult discussion about any subject, Jack. It clearly won't be today.
Looks to me like all you're offering is a dolt discussion.
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Re: Pahoran's Abuse of Private Correspondence
SteelHead wrote:One thing I am learning from this board: don't rumble with msj. She will pin you to the wall. And, she takes copius notes.
As far as "rumbling" is concerned, please note that the only reason we're having this "rumble" is that I logged in here for the first time in months and saw an unread PM from Ms Jack. She had edited it twice after initially sending it, so she knew I hadn't seen it. In reading it, I discovered that she was upset about me having referred to that rather embarrassing PM of hers from all those months ago. So I went to the trouble of tracking down the incidents she was concerned about (I found them via her blog) and getting the content removed.
I thought she would be pleased. After all, it's what she wanted, isn't it?
Well, apparently it isn't. Because she's being, if anything, even more snarky about it than before. Far from being placated or mollified, she's getting increasingly strident. She fails to realise that she has absolutely no negotiating position here -- she can't hurt me and has nothing I want. Of course, since I've already removed the stuff that got her so angry, I guess there's nothing more I can give her that she wants, either.
So really there's no "rumble." I've said what I've come here to say. This thread will be buried in obscurity, as all threads must, and if anyone stumbles across it again, the record will reflect nothing more than that I did all that could reasonably be expected at this point, and she resolutely refused to reciprocate.
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Re: Pahoran's Abuse of Private Correspondence
Bond James Bond wrote:Since I was banned for suggesting that "Pahoran" and "Pahoran" were controlled by the same person...how about it Pahoran? You a.k.a. "Pahoran" around MADland?
I've got no idea what you're waffling about, Bond. Care to recast that in a language anyone recognises?
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Doctor Scratch wrote:More excuses. What a shocker. And what's next, I wonder? More smoke? More attempts to wiggle out of this? Or are you going to post the material and show everyone how much of an "obsessive, relentless hater" MsJack actually is?
It's quite a pickle you're in here, isn't it? I mean, if you do anything other than post the correspondence, you're going to fulfill my predictions concerning your cowardice and guilt. And boy, that would just be the worst, wouldn't it?
Like I said, Scratch: coming from you, that's a ringing endorsement.
Have another look at your first post in this thread. You said you hoped poor put-upon Jack would be "able to get this worked out." I've removed the material that she ostensibly wanted me to remove. How much more "worked out" does she need it to be? Why are you so eager to see even more of her oh so "private" correspondence posted when she was so terribly terribly upset by the posting of a single sentence? Haven't you any sensitivity, man? Don't you know that she's obviously just putting a brave face upon a dreadful trauma? Do you really want her tender feelings to be harrowed up even more? For shame!
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Speaking of the private correspondence with Pahoran that transpired today, I asked if we could share it in its entirety on MDB, and gave him permission to quote me (so long as he provides the relevant context), and yet, he doesn't want me to post it.
I wonder why.
I guess you'll just have to use your imagination as to the nature of this "olive branch" he proffered.
I wonder why.
I guess you'll just have to use your imagination as to the nature of this "olive branch" he proffered.
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Re: Pahoran's Abuse of Private Correspondence
MsJack wrote:Speaking of the private correspondence with Pahoran that transpired today, I asked if we could share it in its entirety on MDB, and gave him permission to quote me (so long as he provides the relevant context), and yet, he doesn't want me to post it.
I wonder why.
I guess you'll just have to use your imagination as to the nature of this "olive branch" he proffered.
It must have been pretty bad for him to be cowering in terror like this.
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MsJack wrote:Speaking of the private correspondence with Pahoran that transpired today, I asked if we could share it in its entirety on MDB, and gave him permission to quote me (so long as he provides the relevant context), and yet, he doesn't want me to post it.
I wonder why.
I guess you'll just have to use your imagination as to the nature of this "olive branch" he proffered.
Let's see.
You complained to the MDDB mods, made a fuss in your blog, started this thread and peppered my inbox with a barrage of PM's, all because I had violated what you called the "sanctity" of private messages, and your "privacy," all by posting just one sentence!
What a horrendous invasion of privacy would it be for me to post all your PM's from today??!!
The olive branch consists in me removing the material that has troubled you so deeply for lo, these many months. In other words, it was a good faith effort of substance. I make no pretensions about my style; I will cheerfully admit that I have made no attempt to ingratiate myself to you or grovel to your satisfaction.
As for the posting of the correspondence: I didn't say you couldn't post it. You must act in accordance with your deeply held principles regarding privacy and the "sanctity" of PM's. After all, you said it was a matter of "trust." And I wouldn't want to have anything to do with untrustworthy behaviour, would you?
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Pahoran wrote:What a horrendous invasion of privacy would it be for me to post all your PM's from today??!!
It would be zero invasion of privacy, because you have my permission to do so.
Do I have your permission to post our MDB private correspondence in its entirety?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
This is not a hard question.
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Re: Pahoran's Abuse of Private Correspondence
MsJack wrote:It would be zero invasion of privacy, because you have my permission to do so.
Do I have your permission to post our MDB private correspondence in its entirety?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
This is not a hard question.
And the answer is: C, None of the above. I'm going to leave it up to your conscience. Let us see how highly you value the "sanctity" of PM's. If my posting of one sentence from a PM you "trusted" me with was such a horrendous violation, I want to see how your principles stack up.
I for one can't see a single reason why this whole episode can't be closed, myself. I've done all that any reasonable person could expect at this juncture; if you don't believe me, find one and ask him/her. But if you'd rather escalate matters further, that's up to you. You will have to do what you have to do.
I'm about to log off now. Perhaps you could cover yourself by giving me an ultimatum, like you did at the start of this thread. Better make it a short one, though. This time I'll be back in less than 24 hours.
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