just me wrote:What is "immodest" about Ann's outfit? Nothing. It is garment approved.
Just cuz you got a boner doesn't mean it is immodest.
It's kind of funny, really, that this definition of modesty is 100% about square inches of skin covered, and particularly certain specific square inches of skin, rather than the overall intent and effect of the clothing worn.
It's reminiscent of the LDS church's definition of "morality" being only about sex.
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why me wrote: Does it matter? These are suggestions. But as Ann proved....women can have their own minds when it comes to dress. She was modest and yet...hot. And very feminine. However the youth do need a dress code and what it means to be modest. They are youth after all. But as they grow older, they should be able to be more free to wear somewhat less modest clothes with their garments. Just like Ann did.
What is "immodest" about Ann's outfit? Nothing. It is garment approved.
Just cuz you got a boner doesn't mean it is immodest.
Read my post again. I never said that it was immodest. Geez...talking about reading what one wants to read.
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just me wrote:What is "immodest" about Ann's outfit? Nothing. It is garment approved.
Just cuz you got a boner doesn't mean it is immodest.
It's kind of funny, really, that this definition of modesty is 100% about square inches of skin covered, and particularly certain specific square inches of skin, rather than the overall intent and effect of the clothing worn.
It's reminiscent of the LDS church's definition of "morality" being only about sex.
I never said that it was immodest. I said that it was modest. Just Me wished to read something that was not in my post. Maybe she is tired.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
What does that mean? Was there something "somewhat less modest" about Ann's outfit?
No.
So, what is your point of this thread? To objectify Ann Romney?
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
just me wrote:What does that mean? Was there something "somewhat less modest" about Ann's outfit?
No.
So, what is your point of this thread? To objectify Ann Romney?
He objectifies every other woman, so why not Ann?
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just me wrote:What does that mean? Was there something "somewhat less modest" about Ann's outfit?
No.
So, what is your point of this thread? To objectify Ann Romney?
He objectifies every other woman, so why not Ann?
This is true. But if that was really the purpose of the thread he shoulda left the LDS crap out of it.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
I love the outfit. I wouldn't wear it quite so short, and I am about Ann's age, but that's just me and nothing to do with church standards.
What this thread reminds me of is Romney saying in his 47% tape that they are "using" Ann sparingly so people don't get tired of her. Looks like they're working her good now!
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Here is an awesome article at LDS.org. I don't see where it says that adult LDS women can become more relaxed in their modesty standards.
by Kelly Ann Peterson
My mom joined the Church after she married my dad. It was the mid-1960s, and mini skirts, sleeveless shirts, and short hemlines were the fashion. As she learned more about the gospel and especially about the temple, my mom knew she would need to make a decision.
She was aware that her clothing would need to be modest to cover the temple garment she would be wearing. Going to the temple meant a great deal to her because it meant that Dad and I could be sealed to her and that we could be a family eternally. That is what she chose.
I was less than two years old, so I don’t remember the sealing experience, but Mom told me that it was beautiful. She also told me that when I was brought into the sealing room, she could not hold back the tears.
When my mom came home, she went through her wardrobe and gave away most of her clothing. But she considered it a small sacrifice. She knew the blessings of the temple were better than any of those clothes.
As I grew up, she taught me modesty. She wanted me to understand how to dress appropriately so that I wouldn’t have to change my wardrobe after I went to the temple.
My mom sewed for me, helped me choose modest clothing, and told me of her decision years before. When I was in high school looking for a formal gown to wear to the prom, she took me shopping. We searched and searched for something appropriate, and finding nothing in our area, we drove three hours to Salt Lake City. There we found a beautiful and perfectly modest pink gown. Her sacrifice of time showed me that dressing modestly was important to her. And it was at that dance I realized how important it had become to me as well. I felt like a princess in my dress. I noticed how uncomfortable some of the other girls seemed to be in their dresses. Many of them spent the evening keeping tiny straps on their shoulders or tugging at the bodices of strapless gowns. They did not look like they were having much fun.
When I later married my sweetheart in the Logan Utah Temple, I didn’t have to change my wardrobe afterwards. Mom had prepared me; I had only one dress I could no longer wear. She had also prepared me by teaching me how sacred and special the garment was and what a privilege it was to be able to wear it. I never felt that garments were a restriction; I appreciated them from the first time I wore them. I knew the blessings and promises and protection they provided. It felt wonderful to have something from the temple that went home with me. And I didn’t have any regrets about not being able to wear certain styles of clothing. As my mother had taught me, the blessings I had were better than any of those clothes!
Now I am a mother of two beautiful daughters and two handsome sons, and I am trying to teach them modesty and its role in preparing for the temple. Even when they were young, I tried to dress them modestly. A cute sundress is still cute with a T-shirt under it. I talk with my children about what is too short, too tight, and too revealing. I remind them of the goal of going to the temple and being able to wear the temple garment.
Many years ago, my mom made that sacrifice. But as she saw it, she gave up one thing for something far better. I’m so glad she did. Her personal commitment to modesty made it so much easier for me.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Personally, I think it is a miracle that a woman with MS can walk in those heels! It is a testament to modern science.
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~