Religious Test: Film Exploring Voter Aversion To Mormonism

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bcspace wrote:
I suspect bcspace would use the same reasoning to not vote for an atheist


If an atheist were conservative, I'd vote for him or her over any Democrat at this point.


There, that was unexpected, though welcome. As Chairman Mao taught us, 'Put politics in command!'

The only thing that should matter when a public-spirited citizen casts a vote is whether that citizen sincerely believes, taking all factors into account, that the candidate voted for is best for the country in the long run. (Of course, citizens may differ about what counts as 'best' ...).

For some people, religion may be one of the factors entering into that judgement, but many other things may and sometimes should outweigh it.
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Re: Religious Test: Film Exploring Voter Aversion To Mormoni

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bcspace wrote:
I suspect bcspace would use the same reasoning to not vote for an atheist


If an atheist were conservative, I'd vote for him or her over any Democrat at this point.


Well sure. Most see this as your main religion.
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Themis wrote:Well sure. Most see this as your main religion.


For a lot of Mormons their political beliefs come first. Remember a couple of years ago when the church announced its support for Utah's amnesty/guest worker program for undocumented immigrants? A lot of people were saying that the church had strayed from the gospel by adopting a less hardline conservative position. Imagine what they would do if the church endorsed universal healthcare.
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Re: Religious Test: Film Exploring Voter Aversion To Mormoni

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If an atheist were conservative, I'd vote for him or her over any Democrat at this point.

There, that was unexpected, though welcome. As Chairman Mao taught us, 'Put politics in command!'

The only thing that should matter when a public-spirited citizen casts a vote is whether that citizen sincerely believes, taking all factors into account, that the candidate voted for is best for the country in the long run. (Of course, citizens may differ about what counts as 'best' ...).

For some people, religion may be one of the factors entering into that judgement, but many other things may and sometimes should outweigh it.


Religion (or lack thereof) figures prominently as there is little that is closer to the heart and mind. A conservative atheist candidate would be highly unusual and rare. More likely there would be better conservative candidates to vote for.
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bcspace wrote:
Religion (or lack thereof) figures prominently as there is little that is closer to the heart and mind. A conservative atheist candidate would be highly unusual and rare. More likely there would be better conservative candidates to vote for.


Now we see the retraction of an earlier statement.
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Bob Loblaw wrote:Imagine what they would do if the church endorsed universal healthcare.


Lets hope they do. I would love to watch bcspace and droppy implode.
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Re: Religious Test: Film Exploring Voter Aversion To Mormoni

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bcspace wrote:If an atheist were conservative, I'd vote for him or her over any Democrat at this point.


Would you vote for Fred Phelps over a democrat, if he claimed his religious views should be off limits?
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