Philo Sofee wrote:Not mine. I see no reason to accept what those earlier far smaller IQ people have to say as reality and truth. I want knowledge based on actual reasoning and analysis, based upon valid information and context, using evidence as a basis for rational thinking, not some cop out spiritualized version of "shut up, sit down, and believe what I say, it'll do you good" type thinking.
I find many people with this opinion. The ancients were stupid and we are so much smarter. I mean they just came out of caves and such they must be barely able to know they were sentient. Whereas you being much more highly advanced can easily figure out their cultures and languages. I mean our language and culture is so much more advanced than these knuckle dragging low IQ idiots.
So with this basic truth firmly in place let us put that truth to a minor test shall we?
I challenge you to learn the ancient language of Sumerian. It is one of the earliest forms of writing and spoken language. Here is a link to get you started.
With your superior IQ and advanced culture I am sure this is mere child's play. So let us give you a week. Then I will give you some pictures of cuneiform tablets to decipher. At that point I will be happy to acknowledge your superior IQ to all on these boards. Or we could conclude you are nothing but a bag of hot air with worthless comments. One or the other.
And will an ancient Sumarian be learning modern English this same week?
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
harmony wrote:And will an ancient Sumarian be learning modern English this same week?
Since it is a dead language I think not. But using the logic of others a Sumerian would require a much longer period of time to learn English. English being so complex as a language.
Franktalk wrote:English being so complex as a language.
Apparently You don't speak - Hungarian - Russian - German
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- any non-English
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Philo Sofee wrote:Monson says never even entertain doubts, throw them out and cling to faith no matter what. The scripture, though, says "prove all things, hold fast to that which is good." Aren't ya glad I hurried and typed this so you don't have to turn blue from holding yer breath?
Franktalk wrote:That is a goal. To have strong faith.
Philo Sofee wrote:Not mine. I see no reason to accept what those earlier far smaller IQ people have to say as reality and truth. I want knowledge based on actual reasoning and analysis, based upon valid information and context, using evidence as a basis for rational thinking, not some cop out spiritualized version of "shut up, sit down, and believe what I say, it'll do you good" type thinking.
Well put, Philo Sofee. Faith is a hope for that for which there is no evidence. If having a strong, evidenceless hope is Franktalk's goal, then I think Franktalk will find opiates and hallucinogens of quite assistance to the goal of strengthening the self-delusion.
Franktalk wrote:English being so complex as a language.
Apparently You don't speak - Hungarian - Russian - German
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- any non-English
Actually I believe all current languages are dumbed down. I think that the ancients were much smarter than the average person today. I think that we fool our self with all of our gadgets into believing that we are superior.
ludwigm wrote:Apparently You don't speak - Hungarian - Russian - German
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- any non-English
Actually I believe all current languages are dumbed down. I think that the ancients were much smarter than the average person today. I think that we fool our self with all of our gadgets into believing that we are superior.
All pale in comparison to the Adamic language, of course.
But let's be real for a sec. We all fantasize in French.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
- Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message. - Umberto Eco - To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin. - Cardinal Bellarmine at the trial of Galilei
Franktalk wrote:Actually I believe all current languages are dumbed down. I think that the ancients were much smarter than the average person today. I think that we fool our self with all of our gadgets into believing that we are superior.
What does it mean to be a "dumbed down" language? Languages have evolved for thousands of years and will continue to do so. This idea that there was somehow a "perfect" language (whatever the hell that means) is nonsense. Of course, nonsense was right up Joseph Smith's alley.
"It doesn't seem fair, does it Norm--that I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night." -- Clifford C. Clavin, USPS
"¡No contaban con mi astucia!" -- El Chapulin Colorado
Franktalk wrote:Actually I believe all current languages are dumbed down. I think that the ancients were much smarter than the average person today. I think that we fool our self with all of our gadgets into believing that we are superior.
They weren't smart enough to know that washing their hands (germs and hygiene) would keep millions of people from premature deaths.
