Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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_Gadianton
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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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er...I kid you not, I posted the above before seeing Kish's post, which was made in the same minute.

Either I am Kish's sock, or the case is closed.

We have the smoking gun.
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Gadianton wrote:Now, there was a certain hypocrite, whose name was Eligah, and he was a false prophet of the east, and he led astray those of little understanding; morever, he was an hireling, and preached for the sake of filthy lucre.

And he rose up and called himself a preacher of the gospel, and his words were smooth, and the people marvelled at him;

But he profaned the temple of the Lord, and strove to lead his disciplies into the wrong way.


Kishyboy just posted that 1 second ago. What's going on here?

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Gadianton wrote:er...I kid you not, I posted the above before seeing Kish's post, which was made in the same minute.

Either I am Kish's sock, or the case is closed.

We have the smoking gun.


Jesus H. Christ!

This place rocks!!!

I'm going to take a bath.

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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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DrW wrote:Kishkumen,

Your link opened to the first chapter of the book, which you indicated you had read.

Have you turned back to and read the Preface? If so, what do you think about it?

If you have not done so yet, your stunning experience may not yet be complete.

Not hard to imagine the impact the Preface would have on someone in Joseph Smith's position. It seems to be both an invitation and an instruction book on writing history in a traditional, proper and, yes, even biblical manner and style.


Thanks for the tip, DrW. You are correct. One can readily see how a young Joseph Smith could have been influenced by this work.
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13. And their weapons of war were of curious workmanship
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:13. And their weapons of war were of curious workmanship


Which chapter, Everybody Wang Chung?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:13. And their weapons of war were of curious workmanship


Which chapter, Everybody Wang Chung?


Sorry, Kish. Chapter XIX

Also, Chapter XVIII, verse 20, "curious devices"
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:13. And their weapons of war were of curious workmanship


I was just about to type that. That's a very interesting phrase. I don't think it is in the Bible? A quick google search reveals almost exclusively LDS links?

This is kind of crazy. It literally sounds like the sealed portion describing the wars and dealings of men in the regions of upper Canada as seen in a vision by the prophet Mormon.

Has anyone already done a thorough comparison of this yet?
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32. About this time, a stripling from the south, with his weapon of war in his hand.

Chapter XIX, verse 32
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Re: Possible Modern Source for the Book of Mormon

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Even if one rejects the "Late War" as the source, it's still devastating. I'm Googling some of the "curious" phrases from the book, and hits not only come up from the Book of Mormon, but the MI, which appears to be offline at the moment. After this discovery, they may wish to leave it that way.

For instance, take 38, "when james heard with words of the council, his heart melted as wax before the fire"

However I Googled it, this hit came up from the MI:

"Other ritual simile curses feature the melting of wax... "

The context being to show the "ancient imagery".

The point being, "Late War" was written "in the ancient style" in modern times, and I'll be damned if it doesn't pass every "ancient imagery" smell test that the Book of Mormon passes.
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