Kishkumen wrote:If you were right, he wouldn't be making up all of these things he doesn't remember about supposed facts Doctor Scratch never mentioned.
He has as good as confessed to doing this.
for what it's worth, I think Stak has been wise not to respond to any of this. There's no upside for him in getting involved.
Given the content in the posts added to this thread today, I agree with Runtu.
I hereby rescind my earlier suggestion that it would be of interest to hear from Stak on this matter. No need now. Pretty clear what DCP and Kiwi 57 are up to.
So, Dr. Scratch comes through again. (Who is that guy?)
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
The Beleaguering One wrote:But when utterly bogus fictional misbehavior of mine is trotted out as "fact," and gullible critics use that pseudo-fact as the basis for condemnation of my character and personality over the course of a month (!), I feel that I need to go on record at least once to deny the factuality of the supposed "fact."
Is that supposed to be this board? Because where is this month-long thread of character assassination? I must be reading all the wrong threads.
"As to any slivers of light or any particles of darkness of the past, we forget about them."
It's an allegation I've heard before from people other than Scratch. That DCP immediately knows a bunch of facts that Scratch didn't reference is pretty clear evidence that he didn't just learn about it then. The best case scenario is that he accidentally is misleading his readers by not pointing out he's come across this allegation again. The best case scenario isn't the most likely one, though.
Symmachus wrote:Is that supposed to be this board? Because where is this month-long thread of character assassination? I must be reading all the wrong threads.
Just imagine you are a narcissist who lives to feel you are in the thick of things, good or bad. Then pick any thread and pretend that you are the person being discussed therein. If you aren't convinced, just act as though you believe it anyway. It will help if you take offense and correct others on their misrepresentations of you. They can't possibly be right. So deflect now by exaggerating their claims. "Yes, I kill puppies, just like my many enemies say." Act really put out. Make a big show about being puzzled by your many detractors spending all of their time on you. They don't talk about anything else. They must be sick.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
EAllusion wrote:It's an allegation I've heard before from people other than Scratch. That DCP immediately knows a bunch of facts that Scratch didn't reference is pretty clear evidence that he didn't just learn about it then. The best case scenario is that he accidentally is misleading his readers by not pointing out he's come across this allegation again. The best case scenario isn't the most likely one, though.
LOL. Yeah.
Well, I would like to see where he did come across such a detailed accusation. This is the first I have seen it here. I am pretty sure certain of my friends would have asked me about this if it had surfaced here before. I assure you that people are asking questions behind the scenes now. Most of them are asking because of DCP's blog, not because of some thread on MDB. That speaks volumes about why this is being raised yet again. Stak sure as hell didn't stoke the fires. Scratch didn't return to it. The thread was almost a distant memory.
I don't really care about it either. This kind of thing is unsurprising old news. What was done to Murphy was published. It was never retracted because it needn't be. It is true. I have my hate mail in my email box. It's not as though we are talking about people who do not get involved in such shenanigans. As I said, this was part of the Mopologetic culture.
One wonders why now is such an all important moment to return to turd polishing.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Symmachus wrote:Is that supposed to be this board? Because where is this month-long thread of character assassination? I must be reading all the wrong threads.
Just imagine you are a narcissist who lives to feel you are in the thick of things, good or bad. Then pick any thread and pretend that you are the person being discussed therein. If you aren't convinced, just act as though you believe it anyway. It will help if you take offense and correct others on their misrepresentations of you. They can't possibly be right. So deflect now by exaggerating their claims. "Yes, I kill puppies, just like my many enemies say." Act really put out. Make a big show about being puzzled by your many detractors spending all of their time on you. They don't talk about anything else. They must be sick.
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
In the comments Peterson continues to profess his ability to ignore things whilst simultaneously drawing his blog followers attention to them...
Believe me, I ignore 99% of the stuff that's said about me on this particular message board -- and pay virtually no attention (or, in most cases, no attention whatever) to others where, I have reason to believe, similar things are sometimes said. (A couple of days ago, though, i noticed that Steve Benson has posted an account of an encounter that he had with me two or three years ago in which, of course, I come across as a complete doofus and a pathetic mercenary, while he's the heroic representative of Truth and Reason. I'm not going to respond.
You just did....
It's what Mr. Benson does, and the handful of hyper-hostile apostates before whom he performs gobble his spin down like dolphins swallowing mackerel at Sea World. But some battles simply aren't worth the effort.)
Its amazing that he can state unequivocally one thing "{I} pay virtually no attention..." whilst simultaneously doing the exact opposite.
Bizarre behaviour.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
I see no need to comment on the rest of the thread, but as to the broader concern of character assassination alluded to above, I was told recently about a man who had been kicked out of his faith community, reportedly because he fell out of a tree, had suffered brain damage, and had thereby become a nuisance of some sort to his faith community. I finally had the opportunity to speak with him a few days ago. He was as lucid and genuine as can be.
Based on that first encounter, I'm guessing further discussion with him will more closely reveal why his detractors choose to denounce and discredit him as mentally unstable. I frankly look forward to hearing the full story, first from his side, and then, if possible, from the side of his detractors.