hagoth7 wrote:Either the Nephite characters are meaningless squiggles, as you say, or, as Stout and many of his follower say, the Nephite characters bear a striking resemblance to a surprising number of Tironian notae. Which is it?
Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. The squiggles can bear a striking resemblance to Tironian notae whilst still being meaningless.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
grindael wrote:Yes, he does. TROLLBIN pontificates out of his ass, then gets called on it, then claims he said something totally different than what he said. This is his M.O. It probably comes from an attention deficit disorder of great magnitude, he doesn't have the ability to comprehend anything he reads, and so just makes s*** up and then instead of admitting he is wrong, continues to act like a TROLL to the utter amusement of anyone who reads his BS.
When you wish to respond to what I said, please feel free. So far I'll note you have failed miserably to do so. Maybe you don't understand the problem here. Let me explain it to you. Let's say I cite a critic, but I fail completely to acknowledge what they said. It would be completely reasonable to point that out. As far as I know, Dr. Stanley B. Kimball is not affiliated with MormonThink and they are simply not just posting what he said, but citing him while elaborating on the issues around the Anthon certificate. I pointed out they fail to address this very important issue. And it is not surprising that someone like you is incapable of acknowledging that. You have your head so far up your ass that you think you are in a coal mine.
But that is not what you said, genius. You said,
I think if you are going to fairly represent the issues, you shouldn't ignore the obvious conclusion from Anthon transcript incident.
They didn't IGNORE IT. They quoted a Mormon Historian who pointed this out. If they IGNORED this point, they wouldn't have posted EXACTLY what you say they are ignoring.
You are the one with the crap all over his face TROLLBIN. It's coming out of both ends...
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Tobin wrote:When you wish to respond to what I said, please feel free. So far I'll note you have failed miserably to do so. Maybe you don't understand the problem here. Let me explain it to you. Let's say I cite a critic, but I fail completely to acknowledge what they said. It would be completely reasonable to point that out. As far as I know, Dr. Stanley B. Kimball is not affiliated with MormonThink and they are simply not just posting what he said, but citing him while elaborating on the issues around the Anthon certificate. I pointed out they fail to address this very important issue. And it is not surprising that someone like you is incapable of acknowledging that. You have your head so far up your ass that you think you are in a coal mine.
But that is not what you said, genius. You said,
I think if you are going to fairly represent the issues, you shouldn't ignore the obvious conclusion from Anthon transcript incident.
No, what I said was:
Oh my! What a load of rubbish Bill. I think if you are going to fairly represent the issues, you shouldn't ignore the obvious conclusion from Anthon transcript incident. Martin Harris was apparently sufficiently convinced by it to provide the funds to publish the Book of Mormon. You fail to mention that on that page. Another example of why MormonThink is just a biased anti-Mormon website.
grindael wrote:They didn't IGNORE IT. They quoted a Mormon Historian who pointed this out. If they IGNORED this point, they wouldn't have posted EXACTLY what you say they are ignoring.
Yes they did. Please identify where MormonThink discusses this issue on that page?!? Here's a hint. Nowhere.
grindael wrote:You are the one with the s*** all over his face TROLLBIN.
Your head still up your butt huh?
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Oh my! What a load of rubbish Bill. I think if you are going to fairly represent the issues, you shouldn't ignore the obvious conclusion from Anthon transcript incident. Martin Harris was apparently sufficiently convinced by it to provide the funds to publish the Book of Mormon. You fail to mention that on that page. Another example of why MormonThink is just a biased anti-Mormon website.
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Please identify where they discuss this issue on that page?!?
See, you said they ignored the issue, but they did not. Now you are claiming they didn't DISCUSS the issue. That is NOT what you originally said. They presented a quote that did address this very issue. But then, you are too stupid to realize this as everyone can see. No one is falling for your BS here.
Keep crapping on yourself TROLLBIN. It's fascinating to watch.
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grindael wrote:See, you said they ignored the issue, but they did not. Now you are claiming they didn't DISCUSS the issue. That is NOT what you originally said. They presented a quote that did address this very issue. But then, you are too stupid to realize this as everyone can see. No one is falling for your BS here.
Keep s******g on yourself TROLLBIN. It's fascinating to watch.
Wow, you are really brain dead and childish. I know what I said dumbass. The fact you can't get your brain around it just goes to show how truly stupid you are. Now, this isn't a death threat grindael, but seriously the world would be better off without people like you in it. You really are the kind of people that end up as roadkill on the side of the road because they don't understand why marked crosswalks are there.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
grindael wrote:See, you said they ignored the issue, but they did not. Now you are claiming they didn't DISCUSS the issue. That is NOT what you originally said. They presented a quote that did address this very issue. But then, you are too stupid to realize this as everyone can see. No one is falling for your BS here.
Keep s******g on yourself TROLLBIN. It's fascinating to watch.
Wow, you are really brain dead and childish. I know what I said dumbass. The fact you can't get your brain around it just goes to show how truly stupid you are. Now, this isn't a death threat grindael, but seriously the world would be better off without people like you in it. You really are the kind of people that end up as roadkill on the side of the road because they don't understand why marked crosswalks are there.
You don't know what you said. That's obvious. I just showed that you contradicted yourself. And there you go with the desperate death threats again. I'm so scared of anonymous TROLLS.
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grindael wrote:You don't know what you said. That's obvious. I just showed that you contradicted yourself. And there you go with the desperate death threats again. I'm so scared of anonymous TROLLS.
You just proved my point. Thanks.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
grindael wrote:You don't know what you said. That's obvious. I just showed that you contradicted yourself. And there you go with the desperate death threats again. I'm so scared of anonymous TROLLS.
You just proved my point. Thanks.
You just proved you have no leg to stand on. Thanks.
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