grindael wrote:Anything Brian Hales writes is apologetic drivel.
I think Master_DC should be left to determine that for himself/herself. I would mention that you probably have an inherent bias towards the views you hold. That bias and those views shouldn't interfere and/or prohibit Master_DC doing their own research.
Maksutov wrote:...you are trying to defend the practices of a cult. Maybe you think or hope that Mormonism has outgrown its culthood. I hope for that change but it won't come from people like you. Just the opposite. You are one of the constructors and maintenance crew of the Mormon Ghetto. Of course you want it to continue. Being a ghetto guard gives you purpose and authority. It also makes you laughable and contemptible.:
I'm willing to let Master_DC decide whether or not this describes who I am. He/she is free to simply read your responses to my posts today, for example, to determine whether or not it's you that has an ax to grind and/or a chip on his shoulder, or whether I am a "ghetto guard". It's rather obvious that you have some rather severe anger issues that have not and will not ever be resolved.
I'm merely a nearby whipping boy for your frustrations and unresolved issues.
grindael wrote:Anything Brian Hales writes is apologetic drivel.
I think Master_DC should be left to determine that for himself/herself. I would mention that you probably have an inherent bias towards the views you hold. That bias and those views shouldn't interfere and/or prohibit Master_DC doing their own research.
Regards, MG
All Master_DC needs to know is that Joseph Smith had all kinds of intimate relationships with (sometimes married) women and girls not his wife, always in secret and without the consent of his wife. This was in contradiction to the revelation he received which specified only virgins and only with the consent of his wife. So we see Joseph Smith concocting stories of angelic intervention to excuse his horndog ways. This is a very old tradition among cultists and shady preachers and Godmen. I would not think that I would need to list all of the cases of horny prophets with excuses...I'm not sure Shades has the bandwidth.
The more you learn about polygamy, the less defensible it becomes, just like the racist doctrine regarding the priesthood. It just doesn't age well and by now it really, really stinks.
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Maksutov wrote:...you are trying to defend the practices of a cult. Maybe you think or hope that Mormonism has outgrown its culthood. I hope for that change but it won't come from people like you. Just the opposite. You are one of the constructors and maintenance crew of the Mormon Ghetto. Of course you want it to continue. Being a ghetto guard gives you purpose and authority. It also makes you laughable and contemptible.:
I'm willing to let Master_DC decide whether or not this describes who I am. He/she is free to simply read your responses to my posts today, for example, to determine whether or not it's you that has an ax to grind and/or a chip on his shoulder, or whether I am a "ghetto guard". It's rather obvious that you have some rather severe anger issues that have not and will not ever be resolved.
I'm merely a nearby whipping boy for your frustrations and unresolved issues.
Regards, MG
Oh, now with the persecution. You are always here defending the indefensible. You don't like my harsh talk? I don't like that Sock Puppet was hounded from this board by your endless BS. I don't like the endless smarmy excuses for ugliness of past and present. I don't like the dishonesty. You think this is anger? This is directness. I'm bearing MY testimony. My testimony is that you are a proponent of almost everything I am against. I'm sure that's mutual. Now give me the whiny psychoanalysis. Let's dance.
Notice that the information that comes from the critics in regards to Joseph's proposal to Nancy Rigdon is filtered through the writings of John C. Bennett.
Remember. We can always count on prophets and apostles to teach us, uh, hard doctrine (whatever that means):
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Notice that the information that comes from the critics in regards to Joseph's proposal to Nancy Rigdon is filtered through the writings of John C. Bennett.
That's a problem.
Regards, MG
Sure, diss John C. Bennett. He was the greatest thing since crotchless bloomers until he wasn't. Joseph turned on him like he did so many others he didn't want to share all the goodies with.
Didn't listen to Streeter, did you? And you won't.
I have to apologize to MG, I was only half right. Chauncey Higbee was an aide-de-camp to John Bennett for a brief time as was Lyman Wight. Here is the original document in Bennett's handwriting with his aides clearly marked (there were four). I should have dug this up to begin with, but I was relying on my memory, which obviously was a mistake.
Still, Chauncey had nothing to do with the '42 scandal.
Riding on a speeding train; trapped inside a revolving door; Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors. One focal point in a random world can change your direction: One step where events converge may alter your perception.
As for Hales, it is not bias, it is a fact. I've proven how he misuses sources, (mainly omissions) and doctors what he uses to get the outcome he wants. An unrealistic and unhistorical one. I have asked him repeatedly to debate me on polygamy, but he won't. The answer why is obvious. No one should waste their time reading his apologetic drivel.
Riding on a speeding train; trapped inside a revolving door; Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors. One focal point in a random world can change your direction: One step where events converge may alter your perception.
