Brad Wilcox's fireside for youth quotes

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

This is what a real Mormon looks like.

Westboro stake.

[Kukulkan]

I'm going to five Brad some praise. I think this is about the best that can be done in defending the church and trying to keep members inside. The problem for the LDS church is that persons with Wilcox's speaking abilities are in REAL short supply. When the primary qualifications for leadership are ability to endure long stretches of boredom and being well and truly church broke, you are not going to foster any abilities at speaking.

Did Wilcox answer any actual questions? No. It was a very skillful use of Millet's dictum, "Don't answer the question they asked, answer the question they should have asked." But he did it with skill and charisma. Was the talk riddled with non-sequiturs and contradictions? Yes, but the audience had a good time and I'm guessing most didn't see them. That takes skill, keeping the audience entertained enough that aren't going to dig deeper but leave the talk satisfied that a good time was had by all.

Have to agree here. The Church does not and cannot win on a factual basis. As a result they have to resort to these oddly demeaning and excruciatingly illogical arguments. It really is all the Church has. It oddly reminds me of the Midnight Mormons. It feels as if the goal is to bully you into remaining a member.

[Marcus]

I'm going to five Brad some praise. I think this is about the best that can be done in defending the church and trying to keep members inside.

seriously?

The problem for the LDS church is that persons with Wilcox's speaking abilities are in REAL short supply.

Thankfully.

...but the audience had a good time

No, I don't think so.

keeping the audience entertained enough that aren't going to dig deeper but leave the talk satisfied that a good time was had by all.

again, no. I can only assume you are being sarcastic.

[Marcus]

Brad Wilcox's wife is not helping:

Debi Wilcox

Reading these comments makes me realize
how truly unchristian people have become. I
KNOW Brad well. I have liv d with him for
almost 40 years and I KNOW his heart. He
has nothing but love and respect for Blacks,
whites, females, LGBTQ, and any other
labels you want to throw in there. He has a
great regard and tolerance and love for all
people but that does not equate with
condoning.

What exactly needs 'condoning' if you're in one of those groups?

[Marcus]

I wondered if Wilcox had given this speech before, it seems he has

“Apologies are great, and repentance is awesome,” said Kimberly Teitter, a Black Latter-day Saint and Utah psychologist. “Apologizing for one night put on display when the same message has been shared numerous times, with private feedback provided and disregarded, does not feel like repentance to me.”

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/02 ... rnLgkUl2Rw

[Marcus]

From the same sltrib article, other parts of Wilcox' talk he didn't apologize for:

‘Patronizing’ toward women
She also expressed concern over Wilcox’s “patronizing” comments during his fireside talk on the topic of women in the priesthood — a point his apology does not reference.

Wilcox raised questions, for example, about women and the all-male priesthood, saying that women can “waltz” into the temple without having the priesthood.

Graham-Russell isn’t alone in her critique.

“Wilcox is perpetuating the myth of women as unknowable, mysterious, alluring sexual and spiritual creatures,” responded Emily Jensen, a Bountiful writer and web editor for Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought. “It makes [women] an ‘other’ who can be dismissed more readily. And centers the conversation on men.”

That the popular Latter-day Saint speaker and author talks about a female colleague as having a “loud voice” and uses “girl” and “girls” when discussing women’s issues “further accentuates his disdain for women’s voices,” Jensen said, “which is most unfortunate when you consider that he’s in the general Young Men Presidency, whose members, I’m sure, work closely with the general Young Women presidency.”

[Rivendale]

Brad Wilcox's wife is not helping:

Debi Wilcox

Reading these comments makes me realize
how truly unchristian people have become. I
KNOW Brad well. I have liv d with him for
almost 40 years and I KNOW his heart. He
has nothing but love and respect for Blacks,
whites, females, LGBTQ, and any other
labels you want to throw in there. He has a
great regard and tolerance and love for all
people but that does not equate with
condoning.

What exactly needs 'condoning' if you're in one of those groups?

That isn't all she said.

[Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/jjTscCN.png)

[Gabriel]

Wilcox is currently scheduled to speak Feb. 20 at a multistake (regional) youth gathering in Long Beach, Calif.

Yeah.......Raaaaaaiiiiiight. Sure he will.

[Tom]

Brad Wilcox's wife is not helping:

Debi Wilcox

Reading these comments makes me realize
how truly unchristian people have become. I
KNOW Brad well. I have liv d with him for
almost 40 years and I KNOW his heart. He
has nothing but love and respect for Blacks,
whites, females, LGBTQ, and any other
labels you want to throw in there. He has a
great regard and tolerance and love for all
people but that does not equate with
condoning.

What exactly needs 'condoning' if you're in one of those groups?

Was her comment on Facebook?

[Marcus]

Brad Wilcox's wife is not helping:

What exactly needs 'condoning' if you're in one of those groups?

Was her comment on Facebook?

I think. It was quoted on reddit
https://i.redd.it/f3ej4eb7dog81.jpg