Apostles: racing to Francium-223

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Re: Apostles: racing to Francium-223

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I suppose the optimistic side of this new teaching is, if you don't like the doctrine, just wait a minute.

Or, in other words,
Rephrasing Haynie wrote:Church leaders eventually learn from the world, because God isn't doing them any favors.
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sock puppet wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:53 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:09 pm


The second sentence clarifies the meaning behind the first. As a very obvious example, we wouldn’t use the teachings of the past in regards to the plurality of wives and then apply those teachings to then excuse the practice of polygamy today rather than listening to and obeying the current prophet.

Polygamy practiced in the past=OK

Polygamy practiced in the present=not OK.

It doesn’t seem to be rocket science.

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Hey, MG 2.0--so have you discarded all your "scriptures"--just past prophetic statements? Of no value, according to the Brethren, April 2023.
Hi sock puppet. I can’t think of any of the modern prophets since the restoration that have referred to the scriptures and/or the prophet’s words recorded in them to be “of no value”. Just the opposite. Albeit with the caveat that we refer to and use the scriptures as far as they are translated correctly. So it’s kind of a mixed bag.

Modern prophets, however, live in a time when things are moving along rather quickly. Industrial Revolution/Technology Revolution, and the like. Recorded scripture in our day is spanning a short amount of time in which the modern world and its needs/ways change almost day to day. Revelation for 100 years ago was given to fit a specific time much different than the ancient world. And then there’s today…

Questions for you. In the ancient world, on average, how fast did things change year to year, decade to decade, and year to year? How does the Mosaic law and/or the gospel at the time of Christ dovetail or not dovetail into the modern world? The issues that you are barely brushing up against that have to do with how the modern world bumps up against the ancient world, especially in regards to revelation and its ‘permanence’.

What we do know is that the Lord works with His children line upon line and precept upon precept. Here a little, there a little. But I think we can agree that the need for continuing revelation in our day to fit the times we live in would be, of necessity, continually morphing and changing to meet the needs of our day.

Although we might expect the core elements of truth to remain the same. Nature of God. Jesus Christ as Savior. Commandments/covenants, temple worship, etc., to remain pretty much the same. Although emphasis may vary from time to time and dispensation to dispensation. Christ is much more of a focus now in the church than even twenty years ago, for one example.

Anyway, thanks for your question. Maybe you’ll answer mine. 🙂

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MG
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Re: Apostles: racing to Francium-223

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Dr Moore wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:44 pm
I suppose the optimistic side of this new teaching is, if you don't like the doctrine, just wait a minute.

Or, in other words,
Rephrasing Haynie wrote:Church leaders eventually learn from the world, because God isn't doing them any favors.
What are some doctrines you don’t like that you expect to change that will not essentially discard recorded scripture?

Would you be open to the idea that God works in a way by which He tutors His children line upon line and precept on precept?

Is there anything in my previous post that seems to be out of kilter with what the world might look like, in regards to revelation from God, if God does tutor and lead along His children according to their needs AND wants?

Mosaic law, polygamy, United Order, are three examples that come quickly to mind where God gives that which is either needed or wanted according to the time and place where laws/commandments are given.

Are you willing to adapt and change according to the will of God?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ame=iossmf

Mormons contradicting themselves, a tale as old as time.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:15 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ame=iossmf

Mormons contradicting themselves, a tale as old as time.

- Doc
Didn't I prove to you the Mopes scholars are quoting from old RLDS documents and books?
How is it the Church contradicts itself when private members set up 501(c)(3)s called:

F.A.R.M.S. later morphing into Book of Mormon Central, Interpreter Foundation and the same-minded FAIRLDS - then start reselling ideas from 100-year old RLDS books with expired copyrights?

They have to come up with something new to appear to be relevant. Why not lift ideas from old RLDS documents now in the Public Domain?

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1918map
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:15 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ame=iossmf

Mormons contradicting themselves, a tale as old as time.

- Doc
I don’t believe I’m contradicting myself. Although you do have to read for understanding rather than moving right up nose length on the Monet trying to figure out what the whole picture is about.

Honestly, I think that black and white thinking along with stubbornness really doesn’t take a person very far.

Talking with you is like, well, not really talking with you.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:00 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:15 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ame=iossmf

Mormons contradicting themselves, a tale as old as time.

- Doc
I don’t believe I’m contradicting myself. Although you do have to read for understanding rather than moving right up nose length on the Monet trying to figure out what the whole picture is about.

Honestly, I think that black and white thinking along with stubbornness really doesn’t take a person very far.

Talking with you is like, well, not really talking with you.

Regards,
MG
You’re the personification of the Rashomon effect embodied in a Dunning-Kruger brain.

- Doc

eta - or he’s a superhero, “Invincibly Ignorant Man”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invinci ... ce_fallacy
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TwoCumorahFraud wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:58 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 11:15 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ame=iossmf

Mormons contradicting themselves, a tale as old as time.

- Doc
Didn't I prove to you the Mopes scholars are quoting from old RLDS documents and books?
How is it the Church contradicts itself when private members set up 501(c)(3)s called:

F.A.R.M.S. later morphing into Book of Mormon Central, Interpreter Foundation and the same-minded FAIRLDS - then start reselling ideas from 100-year old RLDS books with expired copyrights?

They have to come up with something new to appear to be relevant. Why not lift ideas from old RLDS documents now in the Public Domain?

https://tinyurl.com/LEHills1918map
I was responding to MG 2.0 who, by the way, is a homer for DCP and his M2C SITHsayers. Have fun pushing the boulder up that hill, Sisyphus.

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Re: Apostles: racing to Francium-223

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:11 am

You’re the personification of the Rashomon effect embodied in a Dunning-Kruger brain.
Nice try. I admittedly had to look up both. Interesting. Neither one applies to me. At least when I’m fully aware and cognizant. Which is when I’m awake.

Can’t speak for when I’m asleep.

Nice chattin’ with ya’ bud. Talking without saying anything…

Nice skill set to have there, Doc.

I’m the last one to think, by the way, that I know more than I think I know. Which isn’t all that much compared to some pretty smart dudes. Also, I’d be REALLY interested in where you came up with the Rashomon diagnosis in my case.

I do look at things from different angles admittedly.

You’re making stuff up as far as I can tell. And I’m awake. 🙂

Regards,
MG
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