Michelle Stone Bends The Knee

[Moksha]

I don't see the Church has done anything that any normal membership-based "club' would do to protect its overall operation.

Heck, the Fraternal Order of the Moose might order her to cease her bowling night and perhaps join with the Masons or the Water Buffaloes. If Michelle were an attorney, the Bar Association might suggest she make amends with Jenn Kamp.

[MG 2.0]

To play the part of the Church for a minute...If Michelle is publicly espousing things that run contrary to something the Church has taken an official position on, then she is in danger of leading people astray then it should come as no surprise to anyone that the Church would take steps to stop a member doing that. Either the member can cease and desist and hold their thoughts privately should they wish, or the Church can refuse to allow their membership to continue. I don't see the Church has done something any normal membership based "club' would do to protect its overall operation.

In terms of her position on plural marriage - that it's not a divinely instituted thing, it's man-made. I think most people would agree with her. In terms of her position that Joseph didn't start it, and didn't practice it...well, I think most people now would think that's just living in cloud cuckoo land. D&C 132 should be sufficient to dispel that notion, but there's so much more information available now that espousing that Joseph Smith didn't start and practice plural marriage (his term) is akin to promoting the notion that the moon is made of cheese.

Question, I am a little surprised to think many Mormons would think of polygamy as man-made, not divinely established.

I've listened to a number of her presentations. She has had an important voice to add to the discussion of polygamy. A useful voice. I do think that she has reached the end of any kind of useful tenure that she may have had. Meaning that I think she had reached the end in presenting most of the important and relevant information that she had dug up and I'm not sure there was anywhere else to go. She made her case. It bucks up against the official statement of the church in Gospel Topics and other places in which the Brethren have made statements in regards to the fact that Joseph was a polygamist.

Is she right? She sure has some loaded questions that might need to be answered for the average member of the church to go 'whole hog' with the church's position. I'll say that much.

As it is, I think that the average member of the church that goes down this rabbit hole is going to find some speed bumps along the way no matter which way they go. Michelle's theories, or the church's position.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

I've listened to a number of her presentations.She has had an important voice to add to the discussion of polygamy. A useful voice.

What, specifically, have you personally found useful about her presentations?

[Morley]

I've listened to a number of her presentations.She has had an important voice to add to the discussion of polygamy. A useful voice.

What, specifically, have you personally found useful about her presentations?

[MG cues up his chatbot.]

{"Perplexity A.I., who the hell is Michelle Stone?"]

["If I had listened to her, what would I have found personally useful about her presentations?"}

[MG 2.0]

I've listened to a number of her presentations.She has had an important voice to add to the discussion of polygamy. A useful voice.

What, specifically, have you personally found useful about her presentations?

Simply that there are conflicting views and responses in Mormon history as to Joseph's involvement in polygamy. Different folks have different views on whether he did or he didn't. It's a mixed bag. She accepts the evidence that aligns with her belief that Joseph couldn't have participated in polygamy and disregards or underrates the evidence that shows that he did.

I think she is sincere in whatever beliefs she has.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

What, specifically, have you personally found useful about her presentations?

[MG cues up his chatbot.]

{"Perplexity A.I., who the hell is Michelle Stone?"]

["If I had listened to her, what would I have found personally useful about her presentations?"}

I listened to somewhere between five and ten of her presentations. I didn't listen to all of them. Too many...for my interest and time.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

What, specifically, have you personally found useful about her presentations?

Simply that there are conflicting views and responses in Mormon history as to Joseph's involvement in polygamy. Different folks have different views on whether he did or he didn't. It's a mixed bag. She accepts the evidence that aligns with her belief that Joseph couldn't have participated in polygamy and disregards or underrates the evidence that shows that he did.

I think she is sincere in whatever beliefs she has.

Regards,
MG

Why, specifically, is that important and useful?

[MG 2.0]

Simply that there are conflicting views and responses in Mormon history as to Joseph's involvement in polygamy. Different folks have different views on whether he did or he didn't. It's a mixed bag. She accepts the evidence that aligns with her belief that Joseph couldn't have participated in polygamy and disregards or underrates the evidence that shows that he did.

I think she is sincere in whatever beliefs she has.

Regards,
MG

Why, specifically, is that important and useful?

Did you watch any of her presentations? If so, do you agree with what I've said? If not, why?

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

Simply that there are conflicting views and responses in Mormon history as to Joseph's involvement in polygamy. Different folks have different views on whether he did or he didn't. It's a mixed bag. She accepts the evidence that aligns with her belief that Joseph couldn't have participated in polygamy and disregards or underrates the evidence that shows that he did.

I think she is sincere in whatever beliefs she has.

Regards,
MG

Why, specifically, is that important and useful?

Bump

[MG 2.0]

Why, specifically, is that important and useful?

Bump

Did you watch any of her presentations? If so, do you agree with what I've said? If not, why?

Regards,
MG