Patheos: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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Re: Pathoes: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:51 pm
But that Tyler has been seen to become interested in politics and shift his political views away from the family’s towards the extreme left.
(emphasis mine)

How did you reach that conclusion based on the linked article?
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Abaddon wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:52 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:51 pm
But that Tyler has been seen to become interested in politics and shift his political views away from the family’s towards the extreme left.
(emphasis mine)

How did you reach that conclusion based on the linked article?
The young man who allegedly assassinated a beloved pro-life conservative activist was himself a radical leftist who self-identified as Antifa.

The 22-year-old man accused of fatally shooting pro-life conservative activist Charlie Kirk had scrawled “Hey fascist, catch” on a bullet casing recovered from the scene, law enforcement officials said Friday.

The initial details about the shooter are painting the suspect as a radicalized leftist who turned against his staunchly Republican family.
https://www.lifenews.com/2025/09/12/cha ... -a-bullet/
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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"His family was active in the LDS community"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmAcEloJK2Q
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 8:26 pm
I find it concerning that a blog entry like that is posted in the LDS channel on patheos. It gives some insight into how some people think, and it's a very unsettling look. The author seems to specialize in conspiracy theories, which again, in my opinion is a pretty bad look for a channel categorized as "Latter-day Saint."

I'm not that familiar with Utah anymore, is this reflective of a strand of Mormon thought? Even if it's a minority, it's still dangerous, so I'm curious if this stance is becoming more commonplace.
Marcus, I would not disagree with your observation here. I have no information about this particular conspiracy and am unsure whether I would want to know more. It appears to lack the inventive level of a regular flat earth theory so promises little entertainment.

Reveal something of Utah subculture?
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Re: Pathoes: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:11 pm
Abaddon wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:52 pm


(emphasis mine)

How did you reach that conclusion based on the linked article?
The young man who allegedly assassinated a beloved pro-life conservative activist was himself a radical leftist who self-identified as Antifa.

The 22-year-old man accused of fatally shooting pro-life conservative activist Charlie Kirk had scrawled “Hey fascist, catch” on a bullet casing recovered from the scene, law enforcement officials said Friday.

The initial details about the shooter are painting the suspect as a radicalized leftist who turned against his staunchly Republican family.
https://www.lifenews.com/2025/09/12/cha ... -a-bullet/
that is a reach by lifenews as "Hey fascist, catch" is from a video game.

Not to mention, it's not the M.O. of the "Left" to snipe political opponents with bolt-action hunting rifles from 200 yards. They typically riot and vandalize.

I think it's far more likely he was a radicalized "Groyper" that didn't like Kirk because he wasn't alt-right enough.

MAGA loves to pull out the antifa boogeyman when the suspect appears alt-right which seems to be exactly what lifenews is doing.

MAGA: this guy is a leftist radical
(evidence comes in that he's not)
MAGA: this guy is posing as one of us or antifa (see Jan 6th).

Of course, I could be completely wrong about all this, but the profiles I'm reading about the shooter does not indicate antifa.
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Re: Pathoes: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:55 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:52 pm
I would think that he will have to pay the “uttermost farthing”. He chose evil…incrementally. One step at a time.

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MG
You think Kirk chose evil?
I think canpakes was referring to Kirk’s killer.

Regards,
MG
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:06 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:55 pm
You think Kirk chose evil?
I think canpakes was referring to Kirk’s killer.
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Re: Pathoes: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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Abaddon wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:45 pm
that is a reach by lifenews as "Hey fascist, catch" is from a video game.

Not to mention, it's not the M.O. of the "Left" to snipe political opponents with bolt-action hunting rifles from 200 yards. They typically riot and vandalize.

I think it's far more likely he was a radicalized "Groyper" that didn't like Kirk because he wasn't alt-right enough.

MAGA loves to pull out the antifa boogeyman when the suspect appears alt-right which seems to be exactly what lifenews is doing.

MAGA: this guy is a leftist radical
(evidence comes in that he's not)
MAGA: this guy is posing as one of us or antifa (see Jan 6th).

Of course, I could be completely wrong about all this, but the profiles I'm reading about the shooter does not indicate antifa.
You could well be correct.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Pathoes: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:06 am
I Have Questions wrote:
Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:55 pm
You think Kirk chose evil?
I think canpakes was referring to Kirk’s killer.

Regards,
MG
Then you really do not read and comprehend even the simplest of posts.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Pathoes: Were Mitt Romney, Mike Lee and Spencer Cox Behind The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Sep 13, 2025 6:16 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Sep 13, 2025 1:06 am


I think canpakes was referring to Kirk’s killer.

Regards,
MG
Then you really do not read and comprehend even the simplest of posts.
He also failed to answer the question.
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