Did Joseph Smith plagiarize the KJV in the Book of Mormon?

[_CaliforniaKid]

I hate them with a burning passion.

Threaded views or CARMS?

I dislike both passionately.

lol

[Guest]

I hate them with a burning passion.

I save my burning passions for things other than threaded views. Yet, I do intensely dislike them.

I do however appreciate CARMs for its fascinating jot into the bizarro land of fanatics. :)

[_Sethbag]

I just can't stand it when people nest the previous reply, and then someone nests that reply and the previous one, and then someone nests that, and so on, until we've got like 7 nested levels of quotes containing the entirety of the posts in the discussion, which we've already read before, and then they add like one or two lines at the bottom. It drives me up a wall.

I try to edit and cut down what I quote, to keep it as relevant as possible. I want people to know what I'm replying to, but that usually doesn't require the entirety of the previous discussion.

[_Moniker]

I just can't stand it when people nest the previous reply, and then someone nests that reply and the previous one, and then someone nests that, and so on, until we've got like 7 nested levels of quotes containing the entirety of the posts in the discussion, which we've already read before, and then they add like one or two lines at the bottom. It drives me up a wall.

I try to edit and cut down what I quote, to keep it as relevant as possible. I want people to know what I'm replying to, but that usually doesn't require the entirety of the previous discussion.

Look! I edited mine, Mr. Grumpy! I'm just rather lazy at times and it takes a few seconds of effort to delete the extraneous -- often that's just too much for me.

[_why me]

This will be posted shortly, so I might as well be the one to do it:

http://www.xmission.com/~research/central/isabm1.html

I'm sorry to disllusion you. I don't find the list of "could have been", "maybe it was" etc at all persuasive. This could appear impressive to people not used to scholarly language, but it falls short of the mark.

Oh Charity, I wish you could see how hypocritical this is. How many times have mopologists said "could have been," or "maybe it was" in reference to the lack of scientific archaeological evidence for the Book of Mormon. Consistency please!

Not to the extent that the critics have. The woulda, coulda and shoulda are a critic speciality especially with hypothetical illustrations. On your postmo board, the people seem to be engaged in such terminology all the time, mind you, under disguise as fact.

why me, do you think Ouija boards have supernatural powers? If so, what do you think is the source of those supernatural powers?

I tend to believe that it is an emotional current flowing from within the body leading the Quija to its desired destination.

[_Jersey Girl]

To those commenting on threaded views. There are formats available where posters can choose either a threaded or linear format to view the forum. That is to say, it's not a matter of one type or another. Both can be had on the same board depending on the program used.

[_why me]

What happened to this thread? It seems to have bit the dust. How well...it was interesting while it lasted. Now lets get back to the discussion at hand.

[_Pokatator]

What happened to this thread? It seems to have bit the dust. How well...it was interesting while it lasted. Now lets get back to the discussion at hand.

It was settled, Joseph Smith plagiarized the KJV in the Book of Mormon. Where were you?

[_Jersey Girl]

When attempting to engage another poster, JAK will never cut down his posts. You can count on him to write lengthy detailed posts in order to make his transmission as precise as he can.

There's a fine line between precision and boring...

Yes, those of us who give a damn for discussion care to read the build up of quotes on this linear format. Skipping to the last line to read new material is what non-serious ding dongs do. JAK is not a non-serious ding dong. He is documenting the discussion for the reader and he's not using a build up of quote boxes. He's using color coding because this linear format is a huge pain in the ass to scroll back through especially when a thread builds up pages.

This ding dong says that building up the discussion over and over (and over and over...) is redundant. Again...give posters some credit. They aren't goldfish. Odds are they can remember a post they read 2 minutes ago, and can connect that response to their own response. Some people have attention spans longer than 36 seconds.

"All that quoting" is a damn discussion. Geez.

The first time it's a discussion. The second time it's overkill. By the third time it's redundant.

Good, then shoot the s*** and leave serious discussors to what they are also interested in doing. Solid gold money back guarantee on this assertion...if JAK were doing this to DCP there would be a standing ovation instead of the bitching and whining.

Yeah right. Most people would simply skip over his posts for being boring (like they usually do).

I've discussed the threaded view option with Shades previously. What is the relevance of donating 20 bucks?

This is how it works...

1) Someone donates money
2) Keene gets off his ass, uses said money to create the change that is wanted.

As evidence of this...I submit Polygamy Porter's donation of money in which he said "I want a better chat room". He sent money...and what the hell if we didn't have a better chat room! Cause....effect.

We aren't permitted to build up quote boxes on this board. Shades has stated so several times. This isn't the first time the issue of how to format posts has come up.

Actually your permitted to do about whatever you want on the board. All Shades can do is request that you cut down on the amount of quoted material. And if it gets really ridiculous (like more than 5 or 6 quote boxes) a moderator will delete some of the older material. Decent posters will comply with Shades request, and some will continue to be sticks in the mud...eternal gadflys who will question any and all requests and policies of the board administration.

I'm going to address just a few of your remarks here and those in your previous post. I don't see how it could possibly be wise to characterize this community, much less appear to be speaking for the community, as having attention spans ranging above 36 seconds to 8 minutes or less, to promote reading the most current response of a poster as a priority of the community in lieu of reading a series of exchanges that represent a discussion (on a discussion board) nor do I think that placing more value on smilies (to the tune of 8 pages) and shooting the crap as representative of the focus of the entire community, over the substance contributed by an academic poster and chosing instead to fixate on color coding over the content or meaning of his words is, generally speaking, a smart thing to do. But it's a free speech board and you're welcome to your opinion.

My understanding is that Shades doesn't wish for this place to appear as a comic book (as in smilies) and I don't see him criticizing the posters who use color coding in their posts. JAK isn't the only poster who uses colors, by the way. JAK's remarks are that of a professional. You won't see him swear, rant or call charity a douchebag, nor will you see him make posts that require the attention of mod editing out profanity and such.

I can tell you from long years of experience (and some years were longer than others!) that JAK won't change the technique that he uses to engage on a board. He might refine it based on suggestions but, he won't throw out his technique in favor of shooting the crap.

There are those who view the exchanges on a board as a form of discussion/conversation/communication. Sometimes shooting the crap and sometimes digging into a topic to learn, to teach, to refine one's thinking or position on such topics.

My best advice to you is to tell them to stop. Tell the person or person(s) who are holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read JAK's posts (or the lengthy posts of others) to put the gun down. I'm relatively certain they will meet your request. No need to edit your posts, the remarks you deleted were no more or less rude than the remainder of your post here.

Grumpy case of the ass much? Take it out on someone else.

So long as the welcome sign is up on this board, and people are subject to reading hit and run one liners that are posted just for fun, I think accomodations can be made for a poster who posts with serious intent.

Jersey Girl

[_Blixa]

What happened to this thread? It seems to have bit the dust. How well...it was interesting while it lasted. Now lets get back to the discussion at hand.

It was settled, Joseph Smith plagiarized the KJV in the Book of Mormon. Where were you?

Man, I love potatoes. Fried, boiled, mashed, baked, au gratin, chips, tots---anything but funeral. Thanks pokatator for being such a good representative of tubers everywhere.