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Re: Questions I'd like to see Peterson "actually answer (and not

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Daniel Peterson wrote:I can assure EAllusion that I'm still very impressed with NDEs.
Ok. I didn't want to assume. That's why I added the phrase "at least." If I wasn't clear, what I was going for is that you were at least at one point impressed. Seems you still are. Awesome.
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Morrissey wrote:As someone who has made clear your conviction that one's biases influence their perceptions, are you willing to concede that your being very impressed with NDEs is influenced by your biases?

I suppose that, in a trivial and obvious sense, yes, I am. Since everybody is influenced, at all times, by biases.

Other than that, no. My worldview doesn't demand that NDEs be veridical.
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Morrissey wrote:As someone who has made clear your conviction that one's biases influence their perceptions, are you willing to concede that your being very impressed with NDEs is influenced by your biases?


I know this was for DCP, but I'll have a shot at it since I've been a long time observer of the phenomenon. I'll put it this way - I see more evidence for NDEs than Book of Mormon historicity. Far more.

In spite of some very impressive evidences, I haven't decided, definitely, that they are "real". I think it's still possible for them to have a brain origin, even with the evidence of them occurring during clinical death. They could occur immediately before clinical death, or in the process of coming out of clinical death. I think it's quite possible that when you're dead that's the finale. However, I believe otherwise (based on the evidences so far, but which admit nothing definite. Studies are still being conducted).

Hope that's not too confusing.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Morrissey wrote:As someone who has made clear your conviction that one's biases influence their perceptions, are you willing to concede that your being very impressed with NDEs is influenced by your biases?

I suppose that, in a trivial and obvious sense, yes, I am. Since everybody is influenced, at all times, by biases.

Other than that, no. My worldview doesn't demand that NDEs be veridical.


Ok, just checking to see if you were consistent. It doesn't demand it, but probably strongly tends you in that direction.

I'm open-minded about NDEs, skeptical, but open-minded. And, yes, my biases tend me in that direction.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:I disagree, and, anyway, as the never-mistaken beastie has predicted, I'm not going to participate in a discussion of it.

You've got from me as much, on this topic, as you're going to get.

You never responded to my point about the qualifiers Mormons should put on their interpretations of spiritual experiences. If you agree that "spiritual experiences are interpreted through filters of culture, psychology, etc.", then why don't you discourage the kind of certainty spoken of and socially undergirded in fast and testimony meetings?
"You clearly haven't read [Dawkins'] book." -Kevin Graham, 11/04/09
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