Mike Norton to sneak into temple to film porn?

[_RockSlider]

1. Do you remember now your analysis of him at the time? (yes)
2. Has your analysis now changed? (No! even though you've repeated twice in this thread you have not watched the video)
3. What was the purpose of your quoting him in this thread giving Mike the thumbs up? (yet to be answered)
4. Does this lower your opinion of Sam (yet to be answered)
5. or are you going along with Sam and giving Mike a slap on the back of good job listening to others?

from the previous thread:

6. So do you feel that the ends justify the means? He seems to have repeated illegal trespass (along with implied breaking and entering) after the guilty decree from last summer at Bill Reels Stake Center.

And now the means includes trespass to film porn in the temple for a large amount of cash.

[_Jersey Girl]

I believe I've stated twice already on this thread, that I haven't watched the video of the live stream. I have no comment to make regarding the video of the live stream unless and until I have time to view it.

I don't "go along" with anyone. You should know that by now.

What I'm hearing here is a DCP dodge and that you are unwilling to answer the previous threads question or any of these here and that no answers are to follow. Listening to the whole live stream is a waste of time, you will see/hear all you need to know in the first 10 minutes or so.

As you can see, we both posted at the same time. I have already supplied you with lengthy posts regarding your inquiries.

So take your DCP dodge and stick it, buddy.

[_RockSlider]

I don't know what specific means you are referring to.

Having just been convicted of trespass almost immediately defying the law and breaking into Bill Reels stake house. Just a month past that being willing to take a large amount of cash to trespass again with lesbians to fill phone in an LDS Temple.

What's next? And Sam Young is not going to distance himself from this escalating obsession?

[_RockSlider]

As you can see, we both posted at the same time. I have already supplied you with lengthy posts regarding your inquiries.

So take your DCP dodge and stick it, buddy.

questions 3-5 remain unanswered

[_Jersey Girl]

I don't know what specific means you are referring to.

Having just been convicted of trespass almost immediately defying the law and breaking into Bill Reels stake house. Just a month past that being willing to take a large amount of cash to trespass again with lesbians to fill phone in an LDS Temple.

What's next? And Sam Young is not going to distance himself from this escalating obsession?

When you posed that question to me regarding means vs ends, the lesbian porn flick wasn't even a thing.

Had Norton followed through with this porn flick venture, I think Sam would have broken all ties with Norton. That's what I indicated in a much earlier post.

I'm not in charge of either Young or Norton.

[_Jersey Girl]

As you can see, we both posted at the same time. I have already supplied you with lengthy posts regarding your inquiries.

So take your DCP dodge and stick it, buddy.

questions 3-5 remain unanswered

Show me questions "3-5". I copied and transferred your posts and replied to them. I saw no numbered questions.

[_RockSlider]

Show me questions "3-5". I copied and transferred your posts and replied to them. I saw no numbered questions.

Original set; viewtopic.php?p=1165658#p1165658

Then I saw I needed to itemize them for you;

viewtopic.php?p=1165672#p1165672 top of this page.

As you would say; try and keep up.

[_Jersey Girl]

Show me questions "3-5". I copied and transferred your posts and replied to them. I saw no numbered questions.

Original set; viewtopic.php?p=1165658#p1165658

Then I saw I needed to itemize them for you;

viewtopic.php?p=1165672#p1165672 top of this page.

As you would say; try and keep up.

You said that questions 3-5 remained unanswered.
I asked you to show me questions 3-5.
Now you are saying you went back and numbered them after the fact.

And you are instructing ME to try and keep up when you can't keep up with posts that you yourself have authored?

[_Jersey Girl]

Here are your now numbered questions. You said that questions 3-5 remained unanswered. I'm adding your now #2 because you misrepresented what I stated or did not fully express what I stated.

2. Has your analysis now changed? (No! even though you've repeated twice in this thread you have not watched the video)

Already answered with explanation last night:

Once again, I cannot comment on whether or not my assessment of Norton has changed since he apparently decided against the lesbian porn flick. I would note, however, that having high levels of empathy does not rule out anyone making a dick move like fliming porn and essentially desecrating a house of worship.

I have high levels of empathy myself. I've made tons of stupid moves. One does not exclude the other. So far as I am concerned, we are all flawed human beings.


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3. What was the purpose of your quoting him in this thread giving Mike the thumbs up? (yet to be answered)

I quoted Sam Young's post on the Facebook thread under the live stream because I had made predictions about what SY would do had Norton followed through on the porn flick. The live stream was under discussion and I demonstrated how SY responded to the outcome.

4. Does this lower your opinion of Sam (yet to be answered)

Does WHAT lower my opinion of Sam? Do you mean supporting Mike's change in position regarding the porn flick? Of course not. Disassociating himself from Mike had he followed through on the porn flick would be exactly what I would expect from Sam Young as is supporting him for making a sound decision.

5. or are you going along with Sam and giving Mike a slap on the back of good job listening to others?

Already answered last night:

viewtopic.php?p=1165662#p1165662

from the previous thread:

6. So do you feel that the ends justify the means? He seems to have repeated illegal trespass (along with implied breaking and entering) after the guilty decree from last summer at Bill Reels Stake Center.

And now the means includes trespass to film porn in the temple for a large amount of cash.

Already answered last night:

viewtopic.php?p=1165671#p1165671

Now. It is clear to me that you are not reading the post replies that you yourself have requested. It is clear to me that you can't keep up with the content of your own posts.

You asked me to reply to questions 3-5 which remained unanswered, when some were already answered last night.

You had to go back to number your own questions and you edited the old post to include a 6th.

You misrepresented or did not read my explanation to question 2.

I don't see a reason to continue with you by attempting to meet your requests here.

[_Jersey Girl]

I don't know what specific means you are referring to.

Having just been convicted of trespass almost immediately defying the law and breaking into Bill Reels stake house. Just a month past that being willing to take a large amount of cash to trespass again with lesbians to fill phone in an LDS Temple.

What's next? And Sam Young is not going to distance himself from this escalating obsession?

Here is an example of why you are too screwed up to deal with. You copied one statement of mine out of this post where I addressed both behaviors. I can't make you read past the first few sentences of a lengthy reply.

You aren't interested in discussion. Whatever it is that you are truly interested in, I can't say. What I can say is that exchanges with you soon become convoluted and I'm not interested in taking time to straighten them out more than I already have in order to create a dialogue that you have no interest in.

You are asking me if I think (feel) that the ends justify the means. I think in some cases yes, some cases no. I don't know what specific means you are referring to.

Are you talking about Norton trespassing and/or making recordings to expose the inner or hidden workings/processes in the LDS Church?

Again, that depends on the risk vs benefit of whatever activity is under consideration.

I refer to you to the Heinze dilemma developed by Kohlberg that I mentioned in a previous discussion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_dilemma

I think that in the case of recording something like whathisname's court of love, the risk outweighs the benefit.

I think that in the case of recording a lesbian porn flick the risk to others, particularly those that comprise vulnerable populations (mentioned by me previously on this thread) is far greater than any in-your-face benefit in essentially sticking it to the LDS Church.

My current series of responses here should take care of what you were asking about.

Once again, I cannot comment on whether or not my assessment of Norton has changed since he apparently decided against the lesbian porn flick. I would note, however, that having high levels of empathy does not rule out anyone making a dick move like fliming porn and essentially desecrating a house of worship.

I have high levels of empathy myself. I've made tons of stupid moves. One does not exclude the other. So far as I am concerned, we are all flawed human beings.

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From the above. This should have read: I think that in the case of recording something like whathisname's court of love, the benefit outweighs the risk involved.