Christianity vs Mormonism

[_GoodK]

Well, I will allow for it, what I won't allow is Christians who claim that nothing in the Bible is true or false.

I don't accept an allegorical reading as a representation of the Christian faith for several reasons.

1. The allegorical interpretation does not lend support to the claim that Jesus Christ exists, that the Bible is the word of God, or that Christianity is true.

2. The allegorical interpretation of the flood is not what is being taught to children.

3. The allegorical interpretation of the flood is only the result of intelligence prevailing over religious claims in the latter part of Christianity's history.

GoodK, the allegorical interpretation of the flood story is one of being "in Christ" for salvation - that is most decidedly being taught within mainstream Christianity.

What do you mean by "most decidedly"?

Is this "being in Christ" interpretation uniquely yours, or where did you hear it?

Who teaches this?

[_GoodK]

I'm waiting for some sort of quote or reference to be cited that backs up the claim that the Bible isn't the most important, sacred, true book in Christianity.

You are?

Yes. I'd love to know how we can know what stories to take seriously in the Bible. Is the story of Jesus allegory as well?

I think all of the stories can be taken seriously.

But if there is no literal person as Jesus, then it becomes just a collection of morality stories.

A perverted version of morality...

[Guest]

Well, I will allow for it, what I won't allow is Christians who claim that nothing in the Bible is true or false.

I don't accept an allegorical reading as a representation of the Christian faith for several reasons.

1. The allegorical interpretation does not lend support to the claim that Jesus Christ exists, that the Bible is the word of God, or that Christianity is true.

2. The allegorical interpretation of the flood is not what is being taught to children.

3. The allegorical interpretation of the flood is only the result of intelligence prevailing over religious claims in the latter part of Christianity's history.

GoodK, the allegorical interpretation of the flood story is one of being "in Christ" for salvation - that is most decidedly being taught within mainstream Christianity.

What do you mean by "most decidedly"?

Is this "being in Christ" interpretation uniquely yours, or where did you hear it?

Who teaches this?

The Bible teaches it, for one. I've heard it taught in Methodist, Presbyterian, Assembly of God and Episcopalian services - I can't speak for all denominations, but I have heard the teaching in those congregations.

[_Abinadi's Fire]

I'm waiting for some sort of quote or reference to be cited that backs up the claim that the Bible isn't the most important, sacred, true book in Christianity.

You are?

Yes. I'd love to know how we can know what stories to take seriously in the Bible. Is the story of Jesus allegory as well?

I think all of the stories can be taken seriously.

But if there is no literal person as Jesus, then it becomes just a collection of morality stories.

A perverted version of morality...

I don't know, GoodK, the words of Jesus in the Bible are powerful - I don't think I would call those words perverted.

[_GoodK]

Well, I will allow for it, what I won't allow is Christians who claim that nothing in the Bible is true or false.

I don't accept an allegorical reading as a representation of the Christian faith for several reasons.

1. The allegorical interpretation does not lend support to the claim that Jesus Christ exists, that the Bible is the word of God, or that Christianity is true.

2. The allegorical interpretation of the flood is not what is being taught to children.

3. The allegorical interpretation of the flood is only the result of intelligence prevailing over religious claims in the latter part of Christianity's history.

GoodK, the allegorical interpretation of the flood story is one of being "in Christ" for salvation - that is most decidedly being taught within mainstream Christianity.

What do you mean by "most decidedly"?

Is this "being in Christ" interpretation uniquely yours, or where did you hear it?

Who teaches this?

The Bible teaches it, for one. I've heard it taught in Methodist, Presbyterian Assembly of God and Episcopalian services - I can't speak for all denominations, but I have heard the teaching in those congregations.

The Bible certainly teaches no such thing. Please please please tell me where it does.

[_Abinadi's Fire]

The Bible certainly teaches no such thing. Please please please tell me where it does.

Ephesians is a good start.

[_Abinadi's Fire]

Philippians, Romans, Colossians.

Here's one verse from Romans:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

[_Abinadi's Fire]

Here's a good one from Jesus hisself:

John 15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

[_GoodK]

Philippians, Romans, Colossians.

Here's one verse from Romans:

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

You were making some decent points until now.

How does the scriptures you referenced indicate the the story of Noah's Ark is allegory for being in Christ. Because it says "in Christ"?

The Bible does not teach this, even in a round-about sort of way.

Lest there be any confusion as to what my point has always been regarding this subject:

Christians that critique the tenets of Mormon faith are, in my opinion, hypocrites.
My point is that there are no better reasons to believe that Jesus Christ actually lived, than there is to believe that he will spend part of his time in the Second Coming in Jackson County, Missouri.

[_Abinadi's Fire]

You were making some decent points until now.

How does the scriptures you referenced indicate the the story of Noah's Ark is allegory for being in Christ. Because it says "in Christ"?

The Bible does not teach this, even in a round-about sort of way.

You might not see it that way, but some do.

Lest there be any confusion as to what my point has always been regarding this subject:

Christians that critique the tenets of Mormon faith are, in my opinion, hypocrites.

Ok.