Govenor Sarah Palin, Mormonism, Post-Mormonism, Politics

[_Some Schmo]

I'm sure she'll make a great VP... at least, once she finds out what the job entails.

The same could be said for Obama and the Presidency ..

Perhaps, but it wouldn't mean as much. I don't remember Obama going on TV and saying, "Before I consider becoming president, I need to know, what is it exactly that a president does every day?"

[_antishock8]

You people are living in a wonderland if you think Palin is going to help more than hurt the republican cause. I guess you need to look at it positively.

I just think it's hilarious that you don't get that this has to be one of the most transparent political moves ever made, and an insult to the intelligence of American women. Oh well.

"Wait... she's got a vagina?! Well I'm sold! McCain in 2008!"

I'm sure she'll make a great VP... at least, once she finds out what the job entails.

Well, it's good to see non sequiturs don't only apply to Mormon apologetics. :D

Of course it's transparent. Of course a Black man with no experience is transparent. Of course George Bush was transparent.

Political leaders at this level are rarely chosen for their ability. They're chosen by their PARTY (and subsequent handlers) for their marketability in order to push a party platform.

[_dartagnan]

You people are living in a wonderland if you think Palin is going to help more than hurt the republican cause. I guess you need to look at it positively.

She is already helping it. Crawl out of your cave and take a look around. Democrats are in panic mode and the liberal media is already throwing the mud.

I just think it's hilarious that you don't get that this has to be one of the most transparent political moves ever made, and an insult to the intelligence of American women. Oh well.

Why don't you linger over at the hillaryclinton.com forum and tell me if you think Democrat women aren't impressed with her. Hell, they seem to be rooting for her. It sure beats voting for someone because Oprah Winfrey says you should.

"Wait... she's got a vagina?! Well I'm sold! McCain in 2008!"

"Wait, he's got black skin, I'm sold! Obama 2008!"

You think democrats weren't interested in riding into the white house on a race or gender train when for them it boiled down to a woman or a black man? Yet, when a republican picks a woman VP, suddenly it is insulting to everyone's intelligence because this could only happen if they were trying to use gender. Give me a break.

I don't remember Obama going on TV and saying, "Before I consider becoming president, I need to know, what is it exactly that a president does every day?"

What are you referring to?

[_dartagnan]

The editor for US magazine was just slammed on FOXnews for the latest issue on Palin titled "Babies, Lies and Scandal." Good grief. The thing mentions her husband having a DUI, but fails to mention that it happened 22 years ago when he was a kid.

It mentions that she is under investigation for trying to have her former brother-in-law fired, but it failed to mention that this guy used a taser on her 10 year old nephew (his step-son - he has been married 4 times!), illegally killed a moose, drank beer in his patrol car, and eventually threatened to kill her father because he tried to get his daughter a divorce attorney.

Investigators concluded that all of this was true, but because he belongs to a union, and police tend to look after one another, he got off with a slap on the wrist.

The story was published in the Anchorage Daily News back in July, long before anyone knew she was a VP candidate:

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

I really do hope the democrats try to blow up this story because it will result in more light being shed on the matter, and Palin will come across as a hero for doing what she did.

It will reinforce the image of her as a fighter against corruption, and she fired the commisioner who she orginally appointed, as is her right. Even he had to admit she never told him his job was at stake because he refused to fire that officer.

[_TAK]

LOL..
On Tee Shirts this morning ..

'Our mama beats your Obama'

[_dartagnan]

Last night I saw pins that said, "The hottest VP from the coolest state."

[_Some Schmo]

So impressive...

LOL

[Guest]

Does Palin strengthen the Republican ticket or weaken it as Schmo says? I think it is important to take note of what other liberals are saying:

Focus Group: Palin Was (Alarmingly) Strong

Several moderate-Democrat friends of mine have been emailing--few if any would ever vote for McCain--but all agree that Palin was very strong. The more liberal among them are a little panicked.

I completely misjudged how negative she would be. Her lines about Obama were brutally cutting and possibly over the top in places. But she's a far better messenger than an angry white man. (Note, by the way, how both Rudy and Huckabee employed a tone that was more bemused than angry. That's the modern GOP's favorite trick--comedic ridicule in place of outright nastiness.)

--Michael Crowley

Jim Sleeper at TPMcafe:

Yet if you didn't sense last night how deeply Sarah Palin channeled some of the country's deepest, most powerful currents of pent-up indignation and yearning, you don't sense the trouble we Democrats are in.

Rhetorically, she was the anti-Obama,. She was stirring precisely because she was so artless, matter-of fact, and "American" -- with no cadences or grand, historic resonances, but with plenty of mother wit and shrewdness. Credit her as much as the speechwriters..

Andrew Coyne says she is the best speech maker since Reagan:

It was that good. No, she’s not qualified, and the substance was thin, but my God — that was perhaps the greatest bit of political theatre I have ever witnessed. Her critics in the media and in the opposition may regret having piled on quite so enthusiastically, and with so little heed for who they hurt — or angered. Watching the tumultuous, ecstatic reaction in the hall, I was reminded of the famous words of the Admiral Yamamoto after Pearl Harbour: “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant, and fill him with a terrible resolve."

[_dartagnan]

Do you know what a VP does Schmo? (Quickly, run to wiki).

There is a reason the VP is called his "superfluous excellency." Thomas Jefferson said this of the position because it is really just a person who rides the bench for the Presidency.

Think about it.

What has Cheney done as VP?

What did Gore do as VP?

What did Quayle do as VP?

I think she was making a point by asking a rhetorical question.

[_Some Schmo]

I think she was making a point by asking a rhetorical question.

Of course you do. It would be difficult to continue your support otherwise.