Uncle Ed wrote:Trump's base is watching what he does very closely.
One eye on the AM radio dial and the other on the shotgun.
There is truth in your appeal to satire (you probably don't see it as the least bit satirical).
But lots of people support the President, despite disliking him intensely. We know that support, unity, is how we move forward. But it is hard.
A man should never step a foot into the field, But have his weapons to hand: He knows not when he may need arms, Or what menace meet on the road. - Hávamál 38
Over what other issue was Obama holding your neck under his heal (sic)?
Gun control.
canpakes wrote:Interesting. Perhaps you should explain what the Obama Administration did as regards ‘gun control’ that lead you to just blurt that out.
Uncle Ed wrote:Obama could not push any of his desired "sensible" gun legislation because the pro 2nd Amendment lobby (largely the NRA led pro gun lobby) blocked him every way he turned. Thank goodness. The constant threat of His Oness and Company on 2nd Amendment issues was only held off by dint of constant fighting back. His heel could not crush my neck, not even with Bloomberg's and Soros's millions spent on duping the public. But they keep trying.
You seem to be tacitly acknowledging now that there is a difference between your fear that your neck might someday be under someone's heel, and having your neck actually under someone's heel.
As it turned out, your 2nd Amendment rights probably saw a small expansion during Obama's time in office, what with the restrictions on carrying in National Parks removed, along with the restored ability to check firearms within baggage on Amtrak trains. So there's that, anyway.
True, actual progress was made during Obama's administration. But the conflict to defend or remove guns in society is like a glacial fencing match. And Obama is clearly anti gun. His would-be successor was anticipated to be even more so. A threat to liberty is as real as actual oppression, but with the chance, yet, of being avoided.
A man should never step a foot into the field, But have his weapons to hand: He knows not when he may need arms, Or what menace meet on the road. - Hávamál 38
Uncle Ed wrote:True, actual progress was made during Obama's administration. But the conflict to defend or remove guns in society is like a glacial fencing match. And Obama is clearly anti gun. His would-be successor was anticipated to be even more so. A threat to liberty is as real as actual oppression, but with the chance, yet, of being avoided.
And as great a threat to liberty is sensationalism and fabrication of spurious rhetoric in pushing an agenda, regardless of whichever side it originates from.
You'd have a hard time finding much from Obama that can be described as 'clearly anti-gun'. You can post some comments from him here if you find them and want to examine them, though.
That terrible, gun-hating Obama guy wrote:I don’t want any misunderstanding when you all go home, and you’re talking to your buddies, and they say, "Aw, he wants to take my gun away." You’ve heard it here; I’m on television, so everybody knows it. I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in people’s lawful right to bear arms. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away. … There are some common-sense gun safety laws that I believe in. But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one. … It just ain’t true.
I invite you to find a single piece of "sensible gun regulating" legislation that Obama did not vote for.
Words are so cheap. Denial is cheap. The Donald gets an "A" for denials.
Historical, career-defining acts are what make the politician's platform, which define his agenda. Obama hates guns, period. He won't "take them away", but he'll grandfather them with the agenda to phase them out of existence, one, two, generations down the road. He hates guns in private hands and everything he's done pushes that agenda to remove them. Yet he can "truthfully" say that he supports the 2nd Amendment and law abiding gun owners. His view of support or defense of individual rights always comes down to legislating them out of existence, using "death by a thousand cuts" methodology. He's clever and patient (not to a fault; the mask slipped a couple of times, notably after Sandy Hook). One of his last acts as President was to screw over hundreds of thousands of SS recipients who have their finances conducted by a third party: these became "incompetent", i.e. "mental defectives", and therefore placed on the "prohibited" list by faceless bureaucrats working inside the SS system; their names were sent to the NICS system run by the FBI. One of The Donald's first acts as President was to reverse Obama's last gun-hating act.
A man should never step a foot into the field, But have his weapons to hand: He knows not when he may need arms, Or what menace meet on the road. - Hávamál 38
Most or even all of your list of negatives about the President are creations of the Medía, who largely still reel over "their" loss last year: their polls were crap as indicators of what the people who elected him were thinking.
Most of the National Polls were basically correct. Hillary Clinton ended up winning the nationwide popular vote by about 2.1 percent. Link
As for those battleground state polls: The polls from Ohio had Trump leading while the polls from Florida had Trump and Hillary essentially tied. The polls were mostly off from Wisconsin, but Wisconsin had a strict Photo ID Law that went into effect for the 2016 Presidential election. Wisconsin had a lower voter turnout in 2016 from 2012 while Wisconsin's neighboring states, Michigan and Minnesota had higher voter turnouts in 2016 from 2012. And Michigan basically has a history of their polling being a bit off.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
I think Ed is right about guns. Deadly gun violence is a burden Americans need to live with, just like residents of Carribean islands need to accept hurricane destruction as a way of life. It goes with the territory.
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2009 Barack Obama "for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
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