A Cassius CFP: The Organizational Structure of FAIR

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_Daniel Peterson
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Re: A Cassius CFP: The Organizational Structure of FAIR

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Kishkumen wrote:Doesn't make it any wiser to build your home in hurricane country.

You seem to believe that people who live in Cuba and the West Indies and Florida have done something wrong.

Kishkumen wrote:I doubt you'll think much of my recollection since it involves you arguably being at fault in some way.

One of your principal complaints against me appears to be that I don't share your moral disdain for me. That, it seems, is a very grievous fault.

Kishkumen wrote:Yes, I hound Simon. Simon begs for it. His posts are generally atrocious and risible.

You evidently have little or no problem with Joey's and Joseph's and the like.

Kishkumen wrote:your claim that I never fail to criticize you for contradicting Scratch is flatly false.

If you missed a few times, it has been very few.

Kishkumen wrote:Yeah, you only posted about his threads on the other board. Sure you didn't feed the beast.

I responded to him a few times. Mostly I didn't.

When he makes seemingly factual allegations against me that are false and potentially damaging, I sometimes respond.

I don't see that as a fault. To allow his pseudo-factual claims against me to live forever on the Web unchallenged doesn't strike me as morally obligatory in any way.

Kishkumen wrote:Well, you let us all know how that works out for you. I haven't seen much evidence of success, but then I have only been here for a few years, so maybe I will yet see how it will all turn out in your favor someday.

I doubt that it will succeed with the vocal participants here. I'm not really concerned about them, though. It's more important to me that lurkers understand, when Scratch levels his accusations against me of unethical behavior, viciousness, and the like, that he lacks even minimal credibility.

Your amusement at his antics and your insulting dismissals of my responses won't really affect things very much. Fair-minded readers will still see what's going on. The other kind of readers is beyond help.

Kishkumen wrote:You keep fighting the good fight. It is certainly entertaining to watch. Maybe on breaks from watching you and Scratch I can watch equally momentous reruns of Judge Judy.

You can afford to be complacent, I suppose. It's not your public reputation that's been under anonymous public attack here for five solid years.

Kishkumen wrote:I would have said that you are too melodramatic not to pass up using it.

It's painlessly easy to be smugly superior when nobody's slandering you.

Kishkumen wrote:The longer you talk about it, the less persuaded I become that you dislike it.

As I've already noted, you invariably reserve your worst criticism for me when I object to it.
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Re: A Cassius CFP: The Organizational Structure of FAIR

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Kishkumen wrote:Yes, clearly I should take care to keep you from commenting on my posts.


That would in character for you, Nelly.

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Thanks, -Wade Englund-
"Why should I care about being consistent?" --Mister Scratch (MD, '08)
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Kishkumen wrote: Of course I use a pseudonym, Daniel. One of your cronies decided to misuse, publicly, confidential information about me to which he was privy as a volunteer at FAIR, so I realized that even using my first name on the boards was too much of a risk. I thought that solicited submissions to FAIR would be treated with discretion, but it turned out that I was wrong.


By your logic, you invited and chose this and far worse to happen. You built your trailer in tornado alley. You and Quinn and Grant Palmer were asking for it, and just happen to get off far easier than half a decade of relentless character assassinations. Be honest, you crave public riticule and are jealous that you don't warrant a constant deluge of anti-social abuse.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-
"Why should I care about being consistent?" --Mister Scratch (MD, '08)
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Hey, Dr. Peterson:

What do you think of Scratch's 2007 "retirement" and corresponding statements:

Scratch wrote:
  • For some reason, Shades and others seem to have gotten the impression that I thought DCP was the “chief engineer” behind the Quinn smear campaign. I never believed such a thing, and to my knowledge never stated such a thing either.
  • I hereby promise to never start another DCP thread ever again.
  • it seems unfair and incorrect to label him a “gossipmongerer.”
  • I would like to extend my sincere apologies to Prof. Peterson for whatever emotional distress my postings may have caused him on this matter.
  • I am hereby retiring from my unofficial position as Chief Commentator on the World of DCP.
  • Let me say this loud and clear: I hereby promise to never start another DCP thread ever again.
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More obfuscation on this thread, I see. How unfortunate.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Doctor Scratch wrote:More obfuscation on this thread, I see. How unfortunate.



What's more unfortunate is that you are unwilling (or unable?) to answer for these statements.
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21. Brant Gardner
22. Steve Smoot (?)
23. Dana Repouille (pictured below):

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24. Greg Smith
25. R. Scott Lloyd
26. The former (or current?) "Articles Editor" whose name got deleted. What's her pseudonym, though? We ought to put that here.
27. Craig Foster
28. Paul McNabb
29. Richard Berghammer
30. Matt Roper
31. Tyler Livingston
32. Sharon Blackburn
33. Matt Brown
34. Bob Vukich
35. Wade Miller
36. David Keller
37. George Cobabe
38. David Ferguson

***NEWSFLASH: FAIR has updated its "Contacting FAIR" page!

http://www.fairlds.org/contact.php

Mike Parker is no longer listed as "Secretary," and the Articles Editor's name has been deleted. I guess they've been monitoring this board. If that's the case, then I'd like to urge them to help us complete/correct the list. Thanks in advance!
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Doctor Scratch wrote:I'd like to urge them to help us complete/correct the list.



Why?
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I think it should be noted that Tyler Livingston (pictured below, on the left, next to FAIR "slug" Allen Wyatt):

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May be one of the most important "foot soldiers" that FAIR has at the moment. If you read over the FAIR Facebook page, Mr. Livingston has "liked" a remarkable number of the postings. I'll be interested to watch his ascension through the ranks.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Re: A Cassius CFP: The Organizational Structure of FAIR

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Simon Belmont wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:I'd like to urge them to help us complete/correct the list.



Why?


Because it's academically fascinating. It's the type of thing that the B.H. Roberts Chair of Mopologetic Studies is interested in learning more about.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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