To quote one of my favorite posters: Bumpidy Bump Bump!Gunnar wrote:Yes, I watched it. Did you watch any of the rebuttals to it--like these, for example?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxysZmNsyDk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0FiwfyUMM
You're welcome, Bret--and thanks to you for your own interesting and valuable contributions to my understanding and appreciation of this subject!Bret Ripley wrote:To quote one of my favorite posters: Bumpidy Bump Bump!Gunnar wrote:Yes, I watched it. Did you watch any of the rebuttals to it--like these, for example?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxysZmNsyDk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0FiwfyUMM
Thanks, Gunnar. These two videos expose as falsehoods several of the key claims made in the video Ceeboo linked.
I hope so too. Even if they don't change his mind, I hope he will find them interesting and not entirely without merit. At the very least, I hope he realizes or will come to realize that even if evolution is true (as is supported by already enormous and still accumulating amounts of confirming evidence), that doesn't, by itself, necessarily preclude belief in a supreme, divine creator.I hope he will give them a fair chance to inform his opinion on the matter.
Gunnar wrote:What say you to that, Ceeboo?
Bret Ripley wrote:To quote one of my favorite posters: Bumpidy Bump Bump!
Curses, foiled again. (Exits, stage left.)Ceeboo wrote:Hey Gunnar and Mr. Ripley!Gunnar wrote:What say you to that, Ceeboo?
I say "I don't watch things that are obviously influenced by satan and completely full of BLATANT LIES!"
Aha! Gotcha! The answer is: there aren't. I've been to plenty of zoos, and never in my life have I seen a still monkey.Now - if we can all get back to the REAL question:
If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
Bret Ripley wrote:Aha! Gotcha! The answer is: there aren't. I've been to plenty of zoos, and never in my life have I seen a still monkey.
reuters wrote:A new mammal discovered in the remote desert of western Africa resembles a long-nosed mouse in appearance but is more closely related genetically to elephants, a California scientist who helped identify the tiny creature said on Thursday.
The new species of elephant shrew, given the scientific name Macroscelides micus, inhabits an ancient volcanic formation in Namibia and sports red fur that helps it blend in with the color of its rocky surroundings, said John Dumbacher, one of a team of biologists behind the discovery.
Genetic testing of the creature – which weighs up to an ounce (28 grams) and measures 7.5 inches (19 cm) in length, including its tail – revealed its DNA to be more akin to much larger mammals.
"It turns out this thing that looks and acts like shrews that evolved in Africa is more closely related to elephants," said Dumbacher, a curator of birds and mammals at the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco.
The findings, published in the Journal of Mammalogy, floored scientists, who said the only visible link between an African elephant and the diminutive shrew is its trunk-like nose.
An elongated snout is a common feature of various shrew species, many of which look like long-nosed mice externally, though shrews are not classified as rodents.
ludwigm wrote:Not only the raccoon...
California scientists discover mouse-like mammal related to elephantsreuters wrote:A new mammal discovered in the remote desert of western Africa resembles a long-nosed mouse in appearance but is more closely related genetically to elephants, a California scientist who helped identify the tiny creature said on Thursday.
The new species of elephant shrew, given the scientific name Macroscelides micus, inhabits an ancient volcanic formation in Namibia and sports red fur that helps it blend in with the color of its rocky surroundings, said John Dumbacher, one of a team of biologists behind the discovery.
Genetic testing of the creature – which weighs up to an ounce (28 grams) and measures 7.5 inches (19 cm) in length, including its tail – revealed its DNA to be more akin to much larger mammals.
"It turns out this thing that looks and acts like shrews that evolved in Africa is more closely related to elephants," said Dumbacher, a curator of birds and mammals at the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco.
The findings, published in the Journal of Mammalogy, floored scientists, who said the only visible link between an African elephant and the diminutive shrew is its trunk-like nose.
An elongated snout is a common feature of various shrew species, many of which look like long-nosed mice externally, though shrews are not classified as rodents.
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Quasimodo wrote:In fairness to Ceeboo, this cute little guy does resemble an elephant more than a raccoon resembles a whale.
It all started back when I was an ivory hunter searching for King Solomon's Elephant Shrew Graveyard and its legendary treasure in elephant shrew tusks. One day I was leading a band of Masai warriors and bearers across a lonely veldt. Out of nowhere, Pavel, my valet, was gored by bull elephant shrew. Did you know that an average of 60 cashew farmers per year are gored by bull elephant shrews? I didn't, but I learned it later. Pavel never got the chance, poor dumb bastard.ludwigm wrote:Quasimodo wrote:In fairness to Ceeboo, this cute little guy does resemble an elephant more than a raccoon resembles a whale.
I should have highlighted this part of the first sentence:
"resembles a long-nosed mouse in appearance but is more closely related genetically to elephants"