Do you disagree with his assessment about my co-worker? I mean, I realize you can’t get in his head, but does what Gad says resonate?
Limnor, I will go back and look at it. In all honesty, I rarely finish a post that Gad writes. At the point he gets into what he is inspired to know what other people think, I skip ahead. His anecdotes of what his nemesis friends think and say, in Gad's words, also ....... skip ahead. I will get go back to what the holy ghost told him to think about what someone thinks. For you. I will do this.
Funny. I read every word of and enjoy thoroughly Gadianton's posts, and disagree completely with Whiskey's assessment*.
*Whiskey has issues that have been very consistently expressed across his past accounts-- Binger, Cultellus, Mayan Elephant, etc. He has deleted thousands of posts, but enough posts remain to illustrate the situation.
Limnor, I will go back and look at it. In all honesty, I rarely finish a post that Gad writes. At the point he gets into what he is inspired to know what other people think, I skip ahead. His anecdotes of what his nemesis friends think and say, in Gad's words, also ....... skip ahead. I will get go back to what the holy ghost told him to think about what someone thinks. For you. I will do this.
Funny. I read every word of and enjoy thoroughly Gadianton's posts, and disagree completely with Whiskey's assessment*.
*Whiskey has issues that have been very consistently expressed across his past accounts-- Binger, Cultellus, Mayan Elephant, etc. He has deleted thousands of posts, but enough posts remain to illustrate the situation.
You are one of my issues, Lem.
Ban Whiskey permanently if that's the only way.
— Gadianton
Funny. I read every word of and enjoy thoroughly Gadianton's posts, and disagree completely with Whiskey's assessment*.
*Whiskey has issues that have been very consistently expressed across his past accounts-- Binger, Cultellus, Mayan Elephant, etc. He has deleted thousands of posts, but enough posts remain to illustrate the situation.
I am struggling to put all the pieces together on this coworker situation. Hard for me, at this point, to distinguish your own questions about yourself and your questions about your coworker.
Your full response helps me understand my coworker better in that I think you are saying that “God said no” can work as an override of real feelings—at least that is how I am reading what you said.
You seem to be asking for additional personal details of the story so I’ll share. I had asked him “what if the answer is “no” to the Moroni challenge,” but I had not read or prayed about it at the time. In fact, I was afraid to do so, though I don’t really know why. So his response that it was impossible confused me as I wanted to know if what my coworker said was true—that he has received positive confirmation and it was impossible not to.
Part of my theory of the book is dependent upon that exchange—if it really was impossible for God to deny that the book was true, then what does that mean?
That thinking, in part, led me to the conclusion that it was an encoded confessional—so “true.”
There are more relevant questions here.
If the answer is no, what does that do for one's real or perceived identity?
This gets to a very core question about people. How can being a douchebag be selfless? You picture the over the top character acting like a DB but fail to acknowledge the DB we really see every day. It is not selfless in the obvious and external way. It is the abandonment of authenticity. And stupid rationalizations like, "the answer can't be no", are nothing more than steps away from anything authentic. In this case, it is the infrastructure for a complete lack of authentic answers, authentic questions and authentic selves.
Ban Whiskey permanently if that's the only way.
— Gadianton
I had somehow missed the fact that Whiskey was Mayan Elephant.
Even without specific memories, quotes, etc., I find I have generally warm feelings towards the ancient American pachyderm. I'm distinctly ambivalent about Whiskey - ranging from feelings of WTF ("what the fetch", that is) to "hmmm, that's interesting and thought-provoking".
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Your full response helps me understand my coworker better in that I think you are saying that “God said no” can work as an override of real feelings—at least that is how I am reading what you said.
You seem to be asking for additional personal details of the story so I’ll share. I had asked him “what if the answer is “no” to the Moroni challenge,” but I had not read or prayed about it at the time. In fact, I was afraid to do so, though I don’t really know why. So his response that it was impossible confused me as I wanted to know if what my coworker said was true—that he has received positive confirmation and it was impossible not to.
Part of my theory of the book is dependent upon that exchange—if it really was impossible for God to deny that the book was true, then what does that mean?
That thinking, in part, led me to the conclusion that it was an encoded confessional—so “true.”
There are more relevant questions here.
If the answer is no, what does that do for one's real or perceived identity?
This gets to a very core question about people. How can being a douchebag be selfless? You picture the over the top character acting like a DB but fail to acknowledge the DB we really see every day. It is not selfless in the obvious and external way. It is the abandonment of authenticity. And stupid rationalizations like, "the answer can't be no", are nothing more than steps away from anything authentic. In this case, it is the infrastructure for a complete lack of authentic answers, authentic questions and authentic selves.
I’m leaning toward thought-provoking here. I think you are saying something like the danger isn’t selflessness so much as it is a system that forbids “no” and trains people to distrust their own answers.
I had somehow missed the fact that Whiskey was Mayan Elephant.
Even without specific memories, quotes, etc., I find I have generally warm feelings towards the ancient American pachyderm. I'm distinctly ambivalent about Whiskey - ranging from feelings of WTF ("what the fetch", that is) to "hmmm, that's interesting and thought-provoking".
I vaguely recall ME being pretty straightforward, but something seemed to happen on the old Rosebud megathread that caused some fall out, including a new name starting up. I don't know mopologetic history well enough to know what the underlying issue was.
If the answer is no, what does that do for one's real or perceived identity?
This gets to a very core question about people. How can being a douchebag be selfless? You picture the over the top character acting like a DB but fail to acknowledge the DB we really see every day. It is not selfless in the obvious and external way. It is the abandonment of authenticity. And stupid rationalizations like, "the answer can't be no", are nothing more than steps away from anything authentic. In this case, it is the infrastructure for a complete lack of authentic answers, authentic questions and authentic selves.
I’m leaning toward thought-provoking here. I think you are saying something like the danger isn’t selflessness so much as it is a system that forbids “no” and trains people to distrust their own answers.
I see no danger in selflessness. EXTREME selflessness is dangerous. It is like eating potato chips. No problem. Eating an extreme volume of potato chips every day and all day, problem.
Does it train people to distrust their own answers as much is conditions people to only accept the right, "acceptable", answer? Either way, it is not healthy. It is not just the goofy stuff like Moroni's promise that is subject to this buffoonery. The stakes are higher when it comes to premarital sex and abstinence only versus some common sense and education. Homosexuality. Career choices. There are lots of things where the hive mind (h/t to Gad) prevails and selfishness is shamed to an extreme.
Ban Whiskey permanently if that's the only way.
— Gadianton
I had somehow missed the fact that Whiskey was Mayan Elephant.
Even without specific memories, quotes, etc., I find I have generally warm feelings towards the ancient American pachyderm. I'm distinctly ambivalent about Whiskey - ranging from feelings of WTF ("what the fetch", that is) to "hmmm, that's interesting and thought-provoking".
I vaguely recall ME being pretty straightforward, but something seemed to happen on the old Rosebud megathread that caused some fall out, including a new name starting up. I don't know mopologetic history well enough to know what the underlying issue was.
Highly recommend reading that link from Lem. Hell yes. Great, great, great rant. And spot on too. Y'all are going to miss me if Gad gets his wish and I am permanently banned.
Ban Whiskey permanently if that's the only way.
— Gadianton
