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_Daniel Peterson
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Ray A wrote:
Daniel Peterson wrote:It's folly to enter as a partisan into a contentious issue of human relationships where you have neither the full story nor any real need or obligation or right to do so.

No wonder they like you so much on RFM.

So you believe that it's wise to enter as a partisan into contentious issues of human relationships where you have neither the full story nor any real need or obligation or right to do so?
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Daniel Peterson wrote:So you believe that it's wise to enter as a partisan into contentious issues of human relationships where you have neither the full story nor any real need or obligation or right to do so?


I'll repeat. I know where Eric is basically coming from as far as his Mormon experience is concerned. I'm not talking about what Eric did, or didn't do in the past. I'm talking about his reactions to being brought up a Mormon, and being forced in the Gulag to read the Book of Mormon, etc. You show no sign, whatsoever, of trying to understand this, and why he would feel today the way he does about Mormonism.

What difference will the "full story" make? If it was discovered, hypothetically, by some historian researching the Church archives, that Joseph Smith had murdered someone, would you abandon Mormonism?

I await your reply.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
Ray A wrote:No wonder they like you so much on RFM.

So you believe that it's wise to enter as a partisan into contentious issues of human relationships where you have neither the full story nor any real need or obligation or right to do so?


Don't be coy, Dr. Peterson. You have never had "any real need or obligation" to engage in Mopologetics, nor to go meddling in the lives of the various RfM people (which was what Ray was getting at). I'm sure SusieQ and the other random people you emailed out of the blue were really impressed with your wisdom.
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_Paul Osborne

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Not at all. The vast majority of those with whom I interact appear to understand me pretty well. That's one of the reasons that I don't take outliers all that seriously.



Don't incude me. I'm reasonably intelligent but I don't understand a lot of your intellectual ramblings. I have to wonder how many readers out there pretend to understand you just so they can be blessed to receive a response from the great school teacher! That is what your are, a school teacher.

Paul O
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Paul Osborne wrote:Don't incude me.

Don't worry.

Paul Osborne wrote:That is what your are, a school teacher.

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and you rarely contribute much of substance to Mormon Discussions.


What is it that you'd like me to contribute? A commentary on polygamy? Mormon Doctrine? Mormon culture? Mormonism vs Christianity? Joseph Smith Prophet vs Fraud?

How many times in 10 years do you think I've done that oh, thousands of times?

You could if you really wanted, as an outsider, and as I've said, sometimes you make valid observations.


You bet I could. I could repeat what I've stated for the last 10 years in thousands of posts. I can't imagine why I wouldn't find that interesting.


When you can get away from being "pissed off" (one of your most common terms) at this and that.



No part of me is pissed off, Ray, and I don't know why you think that is so. I rarely ever get pissed off on this board. I've written probably 7K posts on this board. Don't presume to tell me what my most common terms are or what I've "contributed" unless you've followed all my exchanges here.

How much substance/mileage do you actually think can be had out of Mormonism?

As I've stated in the past, the limited focus of this board can only glean so much mileage from non-LDS and it's not enough to hold my attention or motivate me to contribute to topics that I've engaged multiple times over in the past.

The one and only LDS related topic that is of interest to me is the authorship issue.
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???


Are you not a teacher? Do you not work at a school? Don't play dumb. You, Daniel Peterson, by profession, are a school teacher. You are not an AC tech and a building engineer like I am. You are a school teacher, perhaps a glorified school teacher, but a school teacher nonetheless.

Life in the school yard!

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Paul Osborne wrote:
???


Are you not a teacher? Do you not work at a school? Don't play dumb. You, Daniel Peterson, by profession, are a school teacher. You are not an AC tech and a building engineer like I am. You are a school teacher, perhaps a glorified school teacher, but a school teacher nonetheless.

Life in the school yard!

Paul O


He's a teacher and....? What?
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_Ray A

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Jersey Girl wrote: Don't presume to tell me what my most common terms are or what I've "contributed" unless you've followed all my exchanges here.


Well, that's true. You're nearing 8,000 posts.

Jersey Girl wrote:How much substance/mileage do you actually think can be had out of Mormonism?


After nearly 8,000 posts, not much. :wink:

Jersey Girl wrote:As I've stated in the past, the limited focus of this board can only glean so much mileage from non-LDS and it's not enough to hold my attention or motivate me to contribute to topics that I've engaged multiple times over in the past.

The one and only LDS related topic that is of interest to me is the authorship issue.


Don't get me wrong. I value your continuing contributions as a nevermo, but there are some things you will never be able to fully understand unless you were a Mormon. If I studied Islam for 40 years, I'd still never understand what it's actually like to be a Muslim, growing up in a Muslim culture, and worst of all, being a dissenter from that religion. You, for example, will probably never, ever, understand why Eric feels the way he does. And if you crawl up DCP's ass on this issue, I'm going to take you up on it.
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He's a teacher and....? What?



He is a school teacher. That about sums it up, a school teacher working on a school campus. He goes around and teaches things according to his educational understanding. It's his profession, not the best one out there but it's a job. He gets a paycheck for being a school teacher.

Paul O
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