Falling out between Dehlin and Kate Kelly?

[_moksha]

Anyway, like I say, we are all broken. Some of us are good at pretending, but there you go.

It's like 'let only those who truly believe they are perfect cast the first stone'. That would leave only Donald Trump and a handful of others to try and pelt the rest of us with a rock.

[_Tator]

I need to know something here. Is anyone else's codependency meter pinging when you read Rosebud's posts? If you don't want to answer that on the thread, feel free to shoot me a PM.

I have seen these same kinds of posts, innuendo---> I've moved on---> I don't want to talk about it---> go ahead and ask me questions, for literal years now.

What profit is there in this besides staying in the relationship and getting attention for it?

I'm not trying to be unkind. If I'm way off base and completely missing the forest for the trees here, somebody tell me.

Jersey Girl I think a couple of things are very telling in the recent Rosebud posts. From this thread:

Yes I loved him.

From the new Rosebud thread:

The following occurred:

1) John told me I would lose my job because he loved me too much to work with me.

2) I told John I wanted to keep my job and that he needed to work out his own emotions

3) John told me this was impossible. He was just too in love.

They were lovers. John's wife said she had to go. This is like a divorce, a very messy divorce, like all divorces are.

I'm not trying to be unkind. If I'm way off base and completely missing the forest for the trees here, somebody tell me.

This goes for me, too!

[_Lemmie]

John talked quite openly about his discomfort with being a role model or hero in a small Sunstone event at which he presented.

So, during a public presentation he was giving, he called himself a role model or hero, and expressed discomfort. Ok. maybe I'm too cynical.

[_Lemmie]

...a small Sunstone event at which he presented. He spoke about his marriage, about how he had developed feelings for another women, and though he didn't technically have an affair, as no sex was involved, he did have to work on his marriage.

i missed this before. He did this in public? How utterly humiliating for his wife. I feel terrible for her.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

What a bunch of “F” ing weirdos. What is the deal with Mormonism and creating cults of personality and an industry based off drama?

Cool. Dehlin does podcasts. Neat. Keep your dick in your pants you dumb dufus.

Cool. Rosebud helped out or whatever. Don't “F” married dudes and then turn into some sort of weird Nu Mormon Feminist Glenn Close you dummy.

Can't wait to see the apocalypse come out of a cruise being ran by Dehlin. Guarantee you there'll be love triangle crap happening and Rosebud will be boiling rabbits out of jealousy.

- Doc

[_Mary]

...a small Sunstone event at which he presented. He spoke about his marriage, about how he had developed feelings for another women, and though he didn't technically have an affair, as no sex was involved, he did have to work on his marriage.

i missed this before. He did this in public? How utterly humiliating for his wife. I feel terrible for her.

It's certainly not something I would make public but I believe that the intention was to say Hey, I am not perfect.

I would think and hope his wife already knew all this. Given RBs postings in the past, it didn't take much for me, at least, to put two and two together.

[_Mary]

John talked quite openly about his discomfort with being a role model or hero in a small Sunstone event at which he presented.

So, during a public presentation he was giving, he called himself a role model or hero, and expressed discomfort. Ok. maybe I'm too cynical.

No. He said If I recall correctly. that he was uncomfortable with other people seeing him that way.

[_honorentheos]

I'm not trying to be unkind. If I'm way off base and completely missing the forest for the trees here, somebody tell me.

This goes for me, too!

I'd say you nailed it -

They were lovers...This is like a divorce, a very messy divorce, like all divorces are.

[_honorentheos]

To be honest, the main take away I get from threads like this is that someone can't run too far away too quickly from Mormonism once they figure out what's what. It makes me so so glad we moved out of Utah to where I have almost zero LDS friends and my LDS family is far away.

It's so nice to sense that immersive crazy vibe it seems to bring with it and be able to just nope out to something more fulfilling and interesting.

My free post-Mormon advise to anyone transitioning out: Run as far away as quickly as you can. Find other hobbies and interests. Don't make Mormonism a point of contention with those who are still in your life who value Mormonism, but make the relationship itself more meaningful in the day to day. MDB is a great place to take crap out on Mormonism once in a while, but the best kept secret of MDB is that the Spirit Paradise forum is actually one of the more informative political message board forums on the net. On it's best days it would be hard to find a better outlet.

If you feel the urge to donate money now because reasons, go buy a good book, read it, and give it to the library when you are done.

[_Jersey Girl]

I'd say you nailed it -
They were lovers...This is like a divorce, a very messy divorce, like all divorces are.

Yeah I get that part.

Here's the thing. For what reason is this past relationship being brought up repeatedly on a public message board? If the man cheated people with whom he worked and that can be proven, isn't that enough?

Why are we being treated to this shitshow and...what about the children involved?

At least one parent here has made the decision to identify herself publicly, put her relationship with Dehlin out there, and describe it in some detail. Has Dehlin had the opportunity to choose this for his children assuming that he has children or has that choice been taken away from him right here on MDB courtesy of Rosebud?

Because now it's not just a matter of the generic he had "feelings" for someone else and needed to work on his marriage. And the adults aren't the only persons involved.

If anyone would like to take a shot at that, hey go for it.