But it is pointless to think/believe that any one of us are NOT immune to Illusory Truth Effect and Mere-exposure Effect.
You are using this to avoid having to weigh the evidence, you Knobbit.
I don’t think so. But I do think that it is rather disingenuous to stir all of your grievances into one pot as though by doing that you are increasing the weight of the pot. I’ve seen this over and over again with critics. Each item in the pot needs to ALWAYS be investigated individually to be fair.
You are using this to avoid having to weigh the evidence, you Knobbit.
I don’t think so. But I do think that it is rather disingenuous to stir all of your grievances into one pot as though by doing that you are increasing the weight of the pot. I’ve seen this over and over again with critics. Each item in the pot needs to ALWAYS be investigated individually to be fair.
Regards,
MG
Huh. Remember back in this thread when I suggested you present an example of something you felt critics ignored against the evidence? Do you remember your response?
I'm curious what evidence you feel critics filter out to maintain their arguments rather than accommodating it in their understanding?
Evidence that maintains the possibility of a creator God. To come to an absolutist position as to the non-existence of a creator is rather risky business in my book. Personally, I’m comfortable erring on the side of a personal God.
It’s got to start with God before taking the leap to the restoration of the Gospel.
Then I’ll have to admit, you’re a hard nut to crack. I will have to assume, however, that you are subject...along with the rest of us...to the Illusory Truth Effect and Mere-exposure Effect.
Also, remember how this thread went so badly for you that you eventually revealed it was all irrelevent as a discussion, but was instead about a war between belief and secularism?
Is that what you mean by each bit of evidence needing to be examined rather than lumped into a pot?
Man you're a piece of work.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Then I’ll have to admit, you’re a hard nut to crack. I will have to assume, however, that you are subject...along with the rest of us...to the Illusory Truth Effect and Mere-exposure Effect.
Lol. You STILL didn’t read your own cut and paste?
Then I’ll have to admit, you’re a hard nut to crack. I will have to assume, however, that you are subject...along with the rest of us...to the Illusory Truth Effect and Mere-exposure Effect.
And that you’re a human. And thus prone to error.
Regards,
MG
The reason MG thinks this "everyone is biased" card works for him is he thinks his bias is towards something good and others are toward something bad and that is where the difference lies. All along ignoring that his definition of good and bad is based on accepting a Mormon worldview. Meanwhile the family member being a dick gets a pass, the LGBT kid feeling ostracized is unfortunate collateral damage that he probably blames on humanism making the kid think they are something he doesn't agree they are, using that to ignore the harm caused by Mormon culture telling a kid they are a sinner and bad person based on who they are. The moral developmental failure caused by confusing following rules with engaging in moral judgement are accepted as free will in action...and on and on and on.
Evidence is a ball getting kicked around in a game according to MG. Like Gadianton pointed out so well, it creates a form of Calvanism without the awareness that it is essentially an argument from privilege.
He's just being silly.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
MG acting like the greatest cause in the universe is defense of some good against increasing evil is amusing given there is no way for him to examine which side he is on.
Someone tells him he is supporting a bunch of lying poopheads? That person is on the side of bad. Evidence is just there to support ones bias after all. Not to examine of one might be causing harm they wouldn't otherwise perpetuate were they to realize the people claiming to speak for God were a bunch of business men running an organization that started as a con, fled to the west to hide from the world, and became domesticated over the course of the industrialization of the US.
But nope, he is holding onto the possibilty of a creator god and that is what matters.
Could be that the world is complex, there aren't cosmic forces of good and evil, the miracle of consciousness is just that - a miracle without current adequate explanation, and life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to be experienced...and discovered bit by amazing bit.
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The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
...we went through the eventual argument around fine tuning that didn't go so well for you.
Just face the facts, MG. You don't like 'em.
It’s not really a matter of whether or not it goes so well for me. I’m just a lay person/novice. I am under no illusion that things will not always go so well for me all of the time. But that doesn’t negate the arguments that are made for fine tuning. If you were one of the ‘go to’ guys on Kuhn’s “Closer To Truth” you would simply be another viewpoint in reference to that subject of inquiry. But you and the others are all predisposed to inherent and/or created biases that are in built to the workings of psychology and the human brain.
No one human is to be completely trusted in having the monopoly on Truth. But we each find ourselves trusting one source over the other.
I’m fine with facts. If that’s what they indeed are. But then there’s the interpretation of those facts. And our own conditioning...and illusions...that impact those interpretations.
It seems you don't believe facts serve any purpose other than to confirm a bias. If that's wrong, explain how you see evidence working to overcome a bias.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Then I’ll have to admit, you’re a hard nut to crack. I will have to assume, however, that you are subject...along with the rest of us...to the Illusory Truth Effect and Mere-exposure Effect.
Lol. You STILL didn’t read your own cut and paste?
Ya lost me and it’s not worth the time to figure out when or where or whether it’s really all that important or not. You are a master at misdirection and obfuscation.
