Who is Wade Englund?

[_wenglund]

By way of information: just because some people here are obsessed with me doesn't mean I crave attention. ;)

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Baker]

You know, I've wondered for a while how Wade's experience with a Church disciplinary court figures into all of this. I've always kind of assumed that it had something to do with this whole same-sex attraction thing, though my assumptions could be wrong. In any case, here's the old thread where Wade's Church Court was discussed:

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... &sk=t&sd=a

He says that he was doing something "in private," but that it had begun to "affect" outsiders somehow. Hmmmm..... What could this be?

Saying a prayer over the KY doesn't make the act acceptable.

[_wenglund]

Also, is anyone else struck by the contrast in finding people posting anonymously, yet who are driven to publically bashing the real me, but also intent on delving into the details of my real personal life?

I find this telling on a number of levels. I mean, isn't the reason some of you are posting anonymously is so as to avoid the very thing you are doing to me here--not that I mind one way or another?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Baker]

Also, is anyone else struck by the contrast in finding people posting anonymously, yet who are driven to publically bashing the real me, but also intent on delving into the details of my real personal life?

I find this telling on a number of levels. I mean, isn't the reason some of you are posting anonymously is so as to avoid the very thing you are doing to me here--not that I mind one way or another?

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Take it as a compliment that your personality and circumstances are sufficiently intriguing as to warrant such attention!

[Guest]

You also forgot his phase where he described apostates critics of Mormonism, especially atheists and agnostics, as having an authoritarian personality (and fundamentalist).

Yes. Indeed, many of this class are famed and famous, as individuals, and as a class, for such characteristics.

Secular humanism is, after all, a modern secular gnostic religion, having various schools, factions, and cults. Many are deeply authoritarian, some are nihilistic, and others are fundamentalist in nature (environmentalism, multiculturalism, radical feminism etc.), tolerating no deviation from rigid doctrinal orthodoxy.

[_Droopy]

Lol. That goes back to 2005. I remember it well because it was based on a bizarre appropriation of Adorno and was my first encounter with wade.

Adorno, of course, was just projecting.

[_Baker]

You also forgot his phase where he described apostates critics of Mormonism, especially atheists and agnostics, as having an authoritarian personality (and fundamentalist).

Yes. Indeed, many of this class are famed and famous, as individuals, and as a class, for such characteristics.

Secular humanism is, after all, a modern secular gnostic religion, having various schools, factions, and cults. Many are deeply authoritarian, some are nihilistic, and others are fundamentalist in nature (environmentalism, multiculturalism, radical feminism etc.), tolerating no deviation from rigid doctrinal orthodoxy.

And some are effectively libertarian in approach.

[_Droopy]

Also, is anyone else struck by the contrast in finding people posting anonymously, yet who are driven to publically bashing the real me, but also intent on delving into the details of my real personal life?

Its been happening to me for years, so I'm not only not struck, I've been struck...many times.

I find this telling on a number of levels. I mean, isn't the reason some of you are posting anonymously is so as to avoid the very thing you are doing to me here--not that I mind one way or another?

Or to avoid being "outed" among their LDS friends and ward members, who have no idea regarding their real feelings toward the Church.

[_wenglund]

Take it as a compliment that your personality and circumstances are sufficiently intriguing as to warrant such attention!

That is kind of you to say, and a positive way for me to look at it.

However, my question wasn't intended to envoke sympathy, but rather to test the capacity for honest introspection on the part of those giving me the bizarre kinds of attention. I am trying to find out if some of the good folks here are in the least bit aware of their rank hypocracy.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[_Droopy]

And some are effectively libertarian in approach.

Yes, this is true, but libertarianism has both a light and "dark" side, one of which tends to make a totem out of "freedom" and which celebrated the sexual revolution and the destruction of traditional Judeo-Christian norms and moral restraints in the late sixties and early seventies with the Left.

A number of salient concepts and positions within the libertarian orbit are friendly to the Church and some of its concerns. Others are not.