Are you scared about what might happen if your blathering about your Nibley connection gets wider airplay? Would the Brethren be mad if they learned what you said?
To me this post is alot like the one from someone who popped into this thread early on and said something about Schryver committing adultery and getting a woman pregnant. No evidence for the claim. More like graffitti written on the wall by some anonymous person passing by.
Kishkumen wrote:What is the point of this investigation, anyway? Frankly, I don't care. It looks like a complete waste of time to me. None of us have anything to do with what happened at the Maxwell Institute. MDB played no role in that at all. What happened there was an internal issue.
So, this has all the appearance of a snipe hunt.
Before I waste my time on strangers, including the characters named in the OP, I need a compelling reason to do it.
I have yet to see one offered.
Doctor Scratch:
By all means do not waste your time on strangers. All I was ever hoping was that you would quote just one thing said by Peterson, Hamblin, or Schryver that you consider to be a good example of the online behavior they are supposedly famous for. It is absolutely a waste of time because now I'm only interested out of curiosity. Nothing more. Give me a single example.
Are you scared about what might happen if your blathering about your Nibley connection gets wider airplay? Would the Brethren be mad if they learned what you said?
Hopefully most people will simply find it nutty. When you get down to it, that is all it is--some nut bragging about bogus crap on the Internet.
liz3564 wrote:...if you are writing a paper which is published by Brigham Young University, which is an official arm of the Church, and you are publishing that material as an LDS apologist, then you damned well better carry the type of reputation and decorum that is becoming of an LDS Priesthood holder.
Is this true?
I'm serious.
To get published at Brigham Young University, is it a pre-requisite that someone must have "the type of reputation and decorum that is becoming of an LDS Priesthood holder"? Do you have to have a current temple recommend and be abiding by the BYU honor code and all that stuff? If this is true, I had no idea.
MsJack wrote:"Ludd" ~ Plenty of "normal people outside of message boards" have reviewed my thread and decided that William's behavior was unacceptable. Some of them were associated with the Maxwell Institute and made the decision to cancel William's upcoming publications based on it. Argumentum ad populum is already highly fallacious as it is, but in this case, I don't believe the populum you're invoking even exists.
Yes, I made a risqué joke to my personal friend, MrStakhanovite. I did that because I know his sense of humor and I know he's okay with that kind of thing. I would never direct that sort of comment at a stranger on the Internet whom I was having a heated disagreement with. I'm not against occasional bouts of ribald humor with friends. I am against using crude sexual references to debase and deride ideological opponents.
Ideological opponents?
Sorry, but that makes me laugh for some reason.
What other term should she use?
Also, you wonder why you are not met with more amicability, and yet you laugh in the face of someone trying to give you an honest explanation of the events which YOU are inquiring about. You also dismiss the information that we have provided as "no big deal", which says to me that you are either a troll, or know very little about the LDS Church, apologetics, and how Melchizedek Priesthood holders, in general, are expected to conduct themselves.
liz3564 wrote:Again, if you honestly believe that Schryver's comments were appropriate, then you know very little about my Church and the way Priesthood holders should conduct themselves.
I never said anything about Schryver's comments being "appropriate" or not.
But if I did, the first thing I would want to know is: "Appropriate" for what?
liz3564 wrote:...if you are writing a paper which is published by Brigham Young University, which is an official arm of the Church, and you are publishing that material as an LDS apologist, then you damned well better carry the type of reputation and decorum that is becoming of an LDS Priesthood holder.
Is this true?
I'm serious.
To get published at Brigham Young University, is it a pre-requisite that someone must have "the type of reputation and decorum that is becoming of an LDS Priesthood holder"? Do you have to have a current temple recommend and be abiding by the BYU honor code and all that stuff? If this is true, I had no idea.
If you are doing so as a representative of the Church, which any apologist is, yes, it is most definitely true.
Are you a member of the Church? What is your relationship to the LDS religion?
liz3564 wrote:Again, if you honestly believe that Schryver's comments were appropriate, then you know very little about my Church and the way Priesthood holders should conduct themselves.
I never said anything about Schryver's comments being "appropriate" or not.
But if I did, the first thing I would want to know is: "Appropriate" for what?
You dismissed his comments as being "no big deal". You also didn't seem to understand why we were upset by them.
His comments were inappropriate activity for a Melchizedek Priesthood holder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Will claims this status loud and proud. Therefore, when he decimates that reputation, yes, as a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I have EVERY right to call him on it.
Ludd wrote:To get published at Brigham Young University, is it a pre-requisite that someone must have "the type of reputation and decorum that is becoming of an LDS Priesthood holder"? Do you have to have a current temple recommend and be abiding by the BYU honor code and all that stuff? If this is true, I had no idea.
If you are doing so as a representative of the Church, which any apologist is, yes, it is most definitely true.
It's not necessarily that I don't believe you, but I would like some additional confirmation about this.
How do they go about confirming this when someone submits an article to a BYU journal?
This is kind of blowing my mind, to tell you the truth. I honestly never knew this about publishing through BYU.
Are you a member of the Church? What is your relationship to the LDS religion?
That's getting a little personal. I think you'll at least need to buy me dinner first before I talk about things like that.
