The door may not swing both ways.

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_Blixa
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Post by _Blixa »

Trevor wrote:
moksha wrote:There are many levels of belief and many types of believers to consider in answering this question. Many who are now antagonistic toward the Church, were originally of the totally committed level and were a naïve type of believer. Had they chosen to enter the Church later on after more clearly understanding the issues involved, their level of belief would not have been so absolute and their faith type would have been less naïve and more interpretive.


How do you create that groovy diaeresis in naïve?

Gasp! It's automatic. Praise Jebus!


*laffing out loud literally*
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Post by _quaker »

I can think of 3 people close to me who joined the Church AFTER digging into the controversial stuff. They are intelligent people in the wordly sense. However they do recognize the spirit and love the teachings.

So a lot of you can use that fact as a tool to discredit their intelligence and maintain whatever impression you want to about converts to the Church.
_CaliforniaKid
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Post by _CaliforniaKid »

I heard somewhere that Jordan Vadja had since left the church. Anybody know if that's true?
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

So what. Look at the millions of intellectual Catholics who believe in miracles involving the virgin Mary.

Religion proves that intelligent humans aren't always the smartest people.

Look at the number of LDS who left to join the FLDS. Women and wives included.
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Post by _mentalgymnast »

Runtu wrote:
Trevor wrote:
Doctor Steuss wrote:I know of one. But, he’s a pretty volatile individual, and ended up leaving the Church, joined another faith movement, left that one, rejoined the Church, left it, joined another faith movement, and as of now, I think he has no particular allegiance.


Ahhh, yes. Evenson. Yeah, he is one strange mensch.


Yeah, Darrick is quite an interesting fellow.


He was the guy over at Google Groups alt.Mormon, right? If so, he had some pretty whacky things going on in his head...in my opinion.

Runtu, what did you go by over at FAIR when you were an apologist?

Regards,
MG
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Post by _Polygamy Porter »

mentalgymnast wrote:
Runtu wrote:
Trevor wrote:
Doctor Steuss wrote:I know of one. But, he’s a pretty volatile individual, and ended up leaving the Church, joined another faith movement, left that one, rejoined the Church, left it, joined another faith movement, and as of now, I think he has no particular allegiance.


Ahhh, yes. Evenson. Yeah, he is one strange mensch.


Yeah, Darrick is quite an interesting fellow.


He was the guy over at Google Groups alt.Mormon, right? If so, he had some pretty whacky things going on in his head...in my opinion.

Runtu, what did you go by over at FAIR when you were an apologist?

Regards,
MG
Johnnycat.

I know as I was arguing with him on and off the board shortly before he came to his senses. At that time I was Joe Palmeto. That name came from the thought that old Joe palmed some big lies!
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Re: The door may not swing both ways.

Post by _Sethbag »

The Nehor wrote:A friend who left the Church over history he felt made it likely Joseph a liar. While never outspokenly antagonistic to the Church he did continue to study. Eventually he began to respect Joseph again. He said the turning point was when he read the account of Joseph writing to Oliver Cowdery and asking him if he had eaten husks long enough.

I wonder if Oliver thought about replying to this letter with one where he asks Joseph if he's stopped f*****g around yet.
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Post by _mms »

barrelomonkeys wrote:Geez, I don't get the Selek thing! Man, oh man! Seriously I need to go over there and check out some of his posts. Maybe it's cause I'm a woman? I'm not sure but I just don't get the bad vibes the rest of you get. Dunno!


Just look at ANY of his responses to me-mms. He has a strange interest in things being placed in the anal orifice that do not belong there (such as tubes of preparation H and heads). Just the facts, ma'am.
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Post by _Runtu »

mentalgymnast wrote:
He was the guy over at Google Groups alt.Mormon, right? If so, he had some pretty whacky things going on in his head...in my opinion.

Runtu, what did you go by over at FAIR when you were an apologist?

Regards,
MG


On a.r.m. I was John Williams (oddly enough).
On FAIR, I was Johnny-cat (long story behind that name). And I sucked as an apologist. :)

When I went over to the dark side, I was Not Quite Me.
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Post by _Doctor Steuss »

Mercury wrote:[...] he had stalked one of the young teenage women in the ward and held her poor father at knifepoint while he told everyone he was sent to marry said girl.
[...]


I really hate when people give those with schizophrenia a bad name.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
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