Why did you quit posting on MADD & RFM

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_cinepro
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Post by _cinepro »

I've only been to RFM long enough to see their awful user interface. No thanks! I started at ZLMB about 5 years ago, then ended up spending most my time at FAIR/MADB.

But after almost 3300 posts at MADB, I think my time there is short. Two posts this weekend got flagged, and I would consider both rather benign, so I'm not interested in continuing to participate never knowing which post is going to inflame a moderator.

For example, one of my pet peeves regarding polygamy is how modern apologists use justifications and theories that would have also made perfect sense back in the 1840's. So, in effect, they are saying that they have figured out a way to "sell" polygamy that never occurred to Joseph Smith or other church leaders. Like the argument that Joseph Smith's polygamous marriages were platonic, and similar to male-male sealings. If this were the case, then I believe Joseph would have simply explained it that way to Emma and others. It is logical, understandable, and reasonable, and would have helped Joseph avoid a lot of grief. But he didn't use this explanation, and Emma was certainly operating off the assumption that Joseph was treating these wives as wives.

To illustrate that point, I made the following post, which used a hypothetical conversation between Joseph and Emma. You can see the moderator's comment.

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[quote name='mnn727' post='1208292447' date='Nov 3 2007, 06:47 AM']
Don't believe it? its historical fact. The thing many people don't understand is that in that time period, sealing and marriage were 2 entirely different things. People were sealed to connect families together not necessarily to become husband and wife. there were even cases of men being sealed to men, so the fact the Joseph Smith was sealed to women who were not his wife (and in fact were wives of other men) is not the sinister thing anti's want you to believe.



Somehow, you were able to figure this out and explain it in one short, clear, logical paragraph. Yet for the last 5 years of his life, Joseph couldn't come up with the same explanation for Emma.

I can just imagine how that would have gone:

EMMA: Joseph! I will not stand for polygamy! How dare you take other wives when you have one!

JOSEPH: Wait a second Emma. You don't understand that "sealing" and "marriage" are two entirely different things. People are sealed to connect families together, not necessarily to become "husband" and "wife". Why, I've even been sealed to other men, so these "sealings" to other women is not the sinister thing you are assuming.

EMMA: Oh, that makes sense. Sorry for getting so upset, I assumed it was something else entirely.

JOSEPH: No problem. By the way, I'll be working very late at the store tonight, so don't wait up for me.


It also raises the question why the other women and men couldn't be sealed to Joseph as sons and daughters, or brothers and sisters. I'm assuming the men-to-men sealings weren't husband-husband, so why would the men-women sealings need to be husband-wife?

Stop the insulting sneering about LDS leaders if you have any plans to stay here. ~ Mods [/quote]


http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=29495

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You can see my other slap on the wrist here: http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index.php?showtopic=29500[/url]
_The Dude
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Post by _The Dude »

I saw both of those. LOL at the one where you added a note to "stupid people" and the moderator popped in and admitted to being one of the "stupid".

Somebody over there is taking you way too personally. I hope they get over it.
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Post by _karl61 »

I've never posted on RFM. I got the boot at MA&D. First they took away my posting privlidges when I posted the speech Brigham gave to the Utah legislature on black folks, with the title of the post saying "why could'New Testament Brigham just keep quiet. Then I think that someone asked what type of trailer they could run for a Joseph Smith movie and I wrote that they should have the scene with Emma pounding on the door, asking if Joseph is in the room, with Joseph holding the door from the inside with one of the partridge sisters in the room (god knows doing what!) and that was last straw and the MODs wrote that I was banned. I can still read posts. I should have kept the email stating that I was no longer a friend and to stay away.
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Post by _Mister Scratch »

I was booted off of MAD (which was then known, ironically, as FAIR) after I checkmated DCP on a pair of threads dealing, respectively, with women and the CK and Blacks and the Church. After I pointed out The Good Professor's use of argumentum ad populorum, I was put on the queue. Then, a thread started up that had to do with peer review. I wrote a post which was let out beyond the queue, and in a very desperate move, Prof. P. resorted to smear tactics, and I was banned.

Incidentally, I eventually revisited the issue of tainted peer review at FARMS, which prompted DCP to pen his silly article, "The Witchcraft Paradigm." It really is a sore spot with him.
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Post by _Brackite »

Hello,
I was banned from Posting on the “FAIR”/MA&D Message Board as Brackite, on November 5th, 2006. I re-registered on the MA&D Message Board as Beckite, on June 25th of earlier this year. The next day, before I got to Post any new Messages as Beckite on the MA&D Message Board, I got banned again, because one of the head Moderators over there, most likely either Juliann or Dan G., recognized me as Brackite. That is absolutely the main and very Big reason, why I don’t Post any Messages on the “FAIR”/MA&D Message Board anymore.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
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Post by _Brackite »

Hello again,
I don’t Post that much Messages on the RFM Message, and when I do Post a Message on the RFM Message Board once in a while, I usually Post anonymously on that Message Board over there.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
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