Gadianton wrote:Does classifying a black skin as a genetic fault bigotry? (yes)
Is classifying Down Syndrome a genetic fault bigotry? (no)
Why isn't the second a case of bigotry? In other words, what constitutes a genetic fault? I think that's pretty shaky ground--not to mention ultimately futile.
Down Syndrome is a genetic disorder because there is an extra chromosome. Genetic disorder has a clear, defined meaning and if it fits under that heading then it is appropriate to label it as such.
But by that definition, being a human instead of another primate is a genetic disorder because we have one less pair of chromosones than they do (a couple having been fused together sometime in the past). No, I don't think number of chromosones will do the trick. I suppose, however, that one could use that definition if one wished and it would be easy to determine. However, the term "disorder" would possibly be misleading in such an instance.
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jskains wrote:How else would you respond to a person that keeps posting right after you "are you gone yet?" repeatedly? Act like a child, I have been told I have a right to act like a child back. I can link you to Beatie's post where that basically was the theme.
How would I act, personally?
I wouldn't bother to countenance poor behavior, if, indeed, I believed it to be such.
I would hope I wouldn't act like a child simply because I perceived that someone else had acted like a child.
But, that's just me.
Unofficially, and with no psychiatric training, I think you're here to indulge a persecution complex.
jskains wrote:How else would you respond to a person that keeps posting right after you "are you gone yet?" repeatedly? Act like a child, I have been told I have a right to act like a child back. I can link you to Beatie's post where that basically was the theme.
How would I act, personally?
I wouldn't bother to countenance poor behavior, if, indeed, I believed it to be such.
I would hope I wouldn't act like a child simply because I perceived that someone else had acted like a child.
But, that's just me.
Unofficially, and with no psychiatric training, I think you're here to indulge a persecution complex.
I'm not.
CKS
And I think your indulging your ego by coming in and making that statement.
Unofficially, and with no psychiatric training, I think you're here to indulge a persecution complex.
As a second comment, ironically you could say that about 90% of the people here. How many sit here crying about how poorly the Mormon church treated them? How evil it is and how it ruined their lives? How about the crying about how Mormonism is a cult and screwed up their marriage?
Take "Infymus"... All he does is push a "persecution complex".. Have you seen his website? It's more whining than anything I have ever done....
But your EV.. You think Mormons are an unChristian group of hellbound sinners.. So you pull a blind eye on them cause they help promote your cause...
Stop trying to make this board so innocent. It isn't.
Apparently. 250 posts in 3 days? There's something not right there.
(PS - it's "boredom"; you may as well learn a bit about spelling while you're flooding the board with posts)
Here are two words you can learn - bite me.
U R a Morron hoo needs to get a life.
I always find not spelling correctly telling. People who have nothing useful to say resort to focusing on trivial things. U haf prooven to be a trevial persun.
jskains wrote:How else would you respond to a person that keeps posting right after you "are you gone yet?" repeatedly? Act like a child, I have been told I have a right to act like a child back. I can link you to Beatie's post where that basically was the theme.
How would I act, personally?
I wouldn't bother to countenance poor behavior, if, indeed, I believed it to be such.
I would hope I wouldn't act like a child simply because I perceived that someone else had acted like a child.
But, that's just me.
Unofficially, and with no psychiatric training, I think you're here to indulge a persecution complex.
I'm not.
CKS
And I think your indulging your ego by coming in and making that statement.
JMS
Yeah well who has the bigger ego?
I vote for you Jskains. I have noticed you always have to have the last word or post on everything that is said to you.
I am thinking you do have a persecution complex.
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Apparently. 250 posts in 3 days? There's something not right there.
(PS - it's "boredom"; you may as well learn a bit about spelling while you're flooding the board with posts)
Here are two words you can learn - bite me.
U R a Morron hoo needs to get a life.
I always find not spelling correctly telling. People who have nothing useful to say resort to focusing on trivial things. U haf prooven to be a trevial persun.
JMS
I'll admit to being petty in that part of the reply. I would not have responded merely to correct spelling. The point is that you've unleashed a torrent of confrontational posts to this board over the last few days, and I find it to be more than a bit disturbing. You've obviously come with some sort of agenda, and your tactics and constant whining are both distasteful.
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Gadianton wrote:Does classifying a black skin as a genetic fault bigotry? (yes)
Is classifying Down Syndrome a genetic fault bigotry? (no)
Why isn't the second a case of bigotry? In other words, what constitutes a genetic fault? I think that's pretty shaky ground--not to mention ultimately futile.
Down Syndrome is a genetic disorder because there is an extra chromosome. Genetic disorder has a clear, defined meaning and if it fits under that heading then it is appropriate to label it as such.
But by that definition, being a human instead of another primate is a genetic disorder because we have one less pair of chromosones than they do (a couple having been fused together sometime in the past). No, I don't think number of chromosones will do the trick. I suppose, however, that one could use that definition if one wished and it would be easy to determine. However, the term "disorder" would possibly be misleading in such an instance.
It's not my definition. There are hundreds of disorders that fall under the heading of "genetic disorder". I don't classify those that have genetic disorders as being flawed, nor do I stereotype their abilities. It is a merely a way to classify. We are called human because that is a way to classify us. Those that are primates fit under their classification. Humans that have one extra chromosome (or any other genetic disorder) are not flawed ( by my account) but they still fit under that classification. Is it the name that bothers you -- disorder?
Unofficially, and with no psychiatric training, I think you're here to indulge a persecution complex.
As a second comment, ironically you could say that about 90% of the people here. How many sit here crying about how poorly the Mormon church treated them? How evil it is and how it ruined their lives? How about the crying about how Mormonism is a cult and screwed up their marriage?
Take "Infymus"... All he does is push a "persecution complex".. Have you seen his website? It's more whining than anything I have ever done....
But your EV.. You think Mormons are an unChristian group of hellbound sinners.. So you pull a blind eye on them cause they help promote your cause...
Stop trying to make this board so innocent. It isn't.
JMS
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