Mister Scratch wrote:Also: I didn't realize how old the "National Anti-Mormon League" was. I guess this is another case of The Great Professor leaning on very, very old sources in a desperate attempt to make a point.
I was surprised by this too. Couldn't he find something similiar in this century? It kinda makes him look like he's flailing for support. Sad.
1. If they are simply sharing THEIR personal beliefs, then, there is nothing anti there.
2. But, if they are telling US what our history, beliefs, etc. actually is, contrary to what it in fact is, even as they do after we've corrected them, then that makes them anti-mormon.
The problem with number 2 is that it is so subjective. If I state that, as a Mormon, I believed God had sex with Mary, and then cite the references from past prophets that led me to this belief, does that alone make me an "anti-mormon"?
We hate to seem like we don’t trust every nut with a story, but there’s evidence we can point to, and dance while shouting taunting phrases.
This is really a fascinating statement! I think we all know the reason mopologists persist in labeling us "anti-Mormon" is the instant discrediting it does.
No, its simply truth in labeling and the clear use of language. People like you are anti-Mormon because you are hostile to and in opposition to the Church, its mission, and its teachings. You are contra the Mormon Church.
If we were to consistently use "the cult" when referring to Mormonism, I'm sure they would not appreciate it much.
The particular lingusitic thrashing precisely this word has undergone at the hands of EVs over the last half century or so has indeed been used as an attack word against the Church to poison the well before good faith debate has even begun. Its been used here by several posters just in the last week or so.
I'm certainly okay with "exmo," or "postmo," so I think if we both use "the term we like to use," I'll do the same for them.
Deal?
Deal. You use "pro-Mormon" for me and I will use "anti-Mormon" for you. Simple clarity of language use, and nothing more.
Of course, all exmos are not by any means anti-Mormons, and that's been fleshed out here again and again. Anti-Mormons are another animal entirely. I've used the term "committed" to described exmormons who cannot leave the Church and its members in peace and become amateur or professional gadflies.
You can run Bish, but you can't hide.
The face of sin today often wears the mask of tolerance.
Deal. You use "pro-Mormon" for me and I will use "anti-Mormon" for you. Simple clarity of language use, and nothing more.
Uh, lemme help you out here, Coggins. The deal offered was that people should be referred to by the labels they define themselves by. You would refer to people as they choose to be labeled. Try again.
Moniker wrote:Uh, lemme help you out here, Coggins. The deal offered was that people should be referred to by the labels they define themselves by. You would refer to people as they choose to be labeled. Try again.
I like this rule.
I define myself as the "Super-Sexy-Jive-Monkey-Skiddily-Doo-Dah-Raggamuffin-Funk-Machine (a.k.a. 'Bob')"
In the future, I expect this to be the only label people use when referring to me.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
If we get to choose our titles I call dibs on "Thor, God of Thunder".
"Whatever appears to be against the Book of Mormon is going to be overturned at some time in the future. So we can be pretty open minded."-charity 3/7/07
The Nehor, the Unassailable Supreme Omnipotent Lord of all Asskickery, Marshal of Intelligent Thought, King of Wittiness, Baron of Fiendish Delight, Count of Chocula, Duke of Dementia, Slayer of Demons, Speaker for the Most High, and Chief Lunatic of the Realm.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics "I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
Moniker wrote:Uh, lemme help you out here, Coggins. The deal offered was that people should be referred to by the labels they define themselves by. You would refer to people as they choose to be labeled. Try again.
I like this rule.
I define myself as the "Super-Sexy-Jive-Monkey-Skiddily-Doo-Dah-Raggamuffin-Funk-Machine (a.k.a. 'Bob')"
In the future, I expect this to be the only label people use when referring to me.