You just don't get it, come back in three days!

[_Ray A]

That is what I thought too, until I crossed the line of arguing "his intellectual highness, DCP, Phoran & Chronies".
The rules are on MADD board upheld until "The intellectual Midgets" cannot handle heavy dose of truth mixed with reality.
And that is exactly what happened Good K.

I have read some of your posts on MAD, and you did cross the line. Tarski successfully remained on MAD as a critic because he understood the line. Uncle Dale successfully remains on MAD as a critic (and sometimes cheerfully admits that he's "anti-Mormon"), and he is even liked. Perhaps you need to learn some lessons from them.

[_Mister Scratch]

Ah, yes. Right. This is why your endless comments about anonymity are a heap of dung, Ray. "Attack the personal dignity"? What does that even mean? See, what you, juliann, and others seem to think is that your use of your in real life name suddenly endows you with this magic cloak of protection, and a sense of entitlement. You think that using the in real life name means you should be special treatment, and that others should have to bow down to you, and so on. Obviously, this MADrule baloney doesn't go both ways. Pahoran doles out all kinds of nastiness to Dan Vogel, Sethbag, CKSalmon, CaliforniaKid and others who employ their in real life names (I have seen Selek and Smac and others behave nastily, too), but are they ever chastised for their refusal to respect "dignity"? This is just yet another of the many MADite hypocrisies that sails right over your Neanderthal head.

Pahoran has been chastised in the past. I was chastised by a mod for being too hard on exmos in the past few months. Did you miss that?

Yes, I missed it. Feel free to enlighten me.

Unlike you, however, I copped the chastisement sweet. I didn't turn against the mods, or come here to squeal and whine like a cowardly pig, which is what you do.

No, instead you erupted with some insane, out-of-control vitriol about how the LDS Holocaust is well on its way.

When the mods booted you from FAIR that was one the best decisions they ever made - totally justified by the subsequent revelation of your savage and unconscionable attacks on the character of others here.

Great logic, Ray. That's like saying, "Boy, Charlie Manson's dad sure was right to kick the crap out of him each day, 'cause look how he turned out!"

You should not talk about nastiness, because you live to see others who disagree with you denigrated. You are a foul and mean-spirited person.

As usual, you've completely missed the boat here. The point is that MAD's so-called "rules" are completely arbitrary, and a violated at whim by the TBMs. They exist only so that juliann & et. al. can point to some very shaky, written-down "reason" for booting out those who've been scoring points.

[_Ray A]

No, instead you erupted with some insane, out-of-control vitriol about how the LDS Holocaust is well on its way.

As a testament to your incompetence you still don't understand that statement. Nor did I say it was "well on its way". I'm not going over this again, because I've learned from experience you only select contexts, ignore other statements, and like to focus on "exciting gossip". As long as you are not the subject of that gossip. If you're not afraid of facts, and not afraid of being criticised, then answer all of Jason's questions.

Here was part of your reply to Jason:

Jason---are you really this stupid? It is quite dumb to state your "position" if you are a critic, since the mindset of many TBMs is one that relies very heavily on stereotypes and pigeonholes.

Which is what you put every other poor bastard in!

Then you stated you could risk excommunication. No pluck, like Quinn? Or David Wright? Gutless? Can't put your real name to what you really believe? Can't tell us too much, though you mine through old posts to exploit every pigeonhole in others?

This issue isn't going to go away, Scratch. You obviously don't see what a gutless, cowardly bully you are. And you deserve zero respect!

Does your stake president know what you post here?

You say you got a nice letter from him? Well be equally nice, stop lying, and refer him to this site:

http://mormondiscussions.com/discuss/index.php (don't forget to tell him who "Mister Scratch" is)

His next nice reply might shock you, because you live a double life. If you didn't live a double life, you would not need to post as "Mister Scratch", or fear excommunication.

[_Mister Scratch]

No, instead you erupted with some insane, out-of-control vitriol about how the LDS Holocaust is well on its way.

As a testament to your incompetence you still don't understand that statement. Nor did I say it was "well on its way". I'm not going over this again, because I've learned from experience you only select contexts, ignore other statements, and like to focus on "exciting gossip".

No, you're not going to go over it again because you know that it makes you look like the Bickle-esque whack-job that you are.

As long as you are not the subject of that gossip. If you're not afraid of facts, and not afraid of being criticised, then answer all of Jason's questions.

I'm not afraid of anyone commenting upon what I've written on these boards. Go right ahead, Ray. Meanwhile, why have you thrown in the towel in terms of this thread's topic? Did you realize that you were on thin ice in terms of defending MAD? I guess so.

Here was part of your reply to Jason:

Jason---are you really this stupid? It is quite dumb to state your "position" if you are a critic, since the mindset of many TBMs is one that relies very heavily on stereotypes and pigeonholes.

Which is what you put every other poor bastard in!

No, they put themselves in that position. I see no reason why anyone needs to state outrightly whether or not s/he is TBM, exmo, TR-holding, nevermo, or anything else. All of that is fodder for ad hominem attacks and nothing else.

Then you stated you could risk excommunication. No pluck, like Quinn? Or David Wright? Gutless? Can't put your real name to what you really believe? Can't tell us too much, though you mine through old posts to exploit every pigeonhole in others?

Gee whiz, you really are a knucklehead, Ray. Do you not know what "pigeonhole" means? If *I* were the one relying on pigeonholes, then I obviously wouldn't see any need to "mine through old posts." Instead, I'd say, "Hey, so-and-so is a TBM, so they must be [fill in the blank]." I don't do that. Instead, I try to gather what information I can and make my judgment based on that. I certainly don't do things such as declaring that a Mormon Holocaust is forthcoming, due to some BS I concocted out of thin air.

This issue isn't going to go away, Scratch. You obviously don't see what a gutless, cowardly bully you are. And you deserve zero respect!

I respect Hammer more than I respect you. I respect charity more than I respect you. At least they are not flip-floppers. At least they stand by their views.

Does your stake president know what you post here?

My SP knows precisely what he needs to know.

[_Ray A]

No, you're not going to go over it again because you know that it makes you look like the Bickle-esque whack-job that you are.

I'm not going over it again because your brain need some jumper-lead assistance.

I'm not afraid of anyone commenting upon what I've written on these boards. Go right ahead, Ray. Meanwhile, why have you thrown in the towel in terms of this thread's topic? Did you realize that you were on thin ice in terms of defending MAD? I guess so.

I often only make a few remarks, because I realise that no matter how much I write it won't sink into some light-diminished crevices, like yours.

No, they put themselves in that position. I see no reason why anyone needs to state outrightly whether or not s/he is TBM, exmo, TR-holding, nevermo, or anything else. All of that is fodder for ad hominem attacks and nothing else.

And what do you do? You use "fodder" for ad hominem attacks by using other people's past posts, but ONLY if they do not agree with you! Or have criticised you. If you are really LDS, I haven't seen this kind of vindictiveness in LDS posters. Not only your words, but your vindictiveness is unlike the majority of Mormons I know. You are fake, and you are a liar. I don't believe you are Mormon.

Gee whiz, you really are a knucklehead, Ray. Do you not know what "pigeonhole" means? If *I* were the one relying on pigeonholes, then I obviously wouldn't see any need to "mine through old posts." Instead, I'd say, "Hey, so-and-so is a TBM, so they must be [fill in the blank]." I don't do that. Instead, I try to gather what information I can and make my judgment based on that. I certainly don't do things such as declaring that a Mormon Holocaust is forthcoming, due to some BS I concocted out of thin air.

You do far worse - you proclaim people guilty of things when there's no hard evidence against them. Only your twisted interpretations.

I respect Hammer more than I respect you. I respect charity more than I respect you. At least they are not flip-floppers. At least they stand by their views.

That's because they don't call you on your hypocrisy, your lies, your fake identity, your gutlessness, your character assassination, and your double life.

My SP knows precisely what he needs to know.

I'm sure he knows what he "needs to know" because you tell him nothing about what you post here. And that's why you are fake! (That's IF you even have a stake president.)

[_charity]

Face it Ray A., you and Charity are hypocrites.

Cal for references!

Give me an example or retract that statement.

[_GoodK]

All it takes is to go against the bretheren and you get slapped down. When a person who knows what they are talking about get on the board and gets the better of the apologists, they are marked.

I can at least agree with this.. I went out of my way to be as civil as possible, and some people were just plain venomous over there. Today when they booted me for "patting myself on the back" I really learned that the conversation should not be had in a place where one side has the home-court advantage and ability to censor people.

[_the road to hana]

I really learned that the conversation should not be had in a place where one side has the home-court advantage and ability to censor people.

Bingo.

Julie particularly hates it when she's outed. She likes to keep up the gambit that she is really not the man behind the curtain over there.

[_GoodK]

I really learned that the conversation should not be had in a place where one side has the home-court advantage and ability to censor people.

Bingo.

Julie particularly hates it when she's outed. She likes to keep up the gambit that she is really not the man behind the curtain over there.

Should I know who this "Julie" character is? Is she notable for anything besides her moderating?

[_the road to hana]

I really learned that the conversation should not be had in a place where one side has the home-court advantage and ability to censor people.

Bingo.

Julie particularly hates it when she's outed. She likes to keep up the gambit that she is really not the man behind the curtain over there.

Should I know who this "Julie" character is? Is she notable for anything besides her moderating?

Ms. Juliann Reynolds? She's more notorious than notable, a mainstay on Mormon apologetics boards and FAIR from way back.

http://www.fairlds.org/Misc/Critics_in_ ... Glass.html