Outing Annonymous Posters

[_GoodK]

I only object to the post in that it comes from a family member poking fun at the rest of the family for a real terrible problem they are going through. I think the milk of human kindness, whether one is Muslim or atheist, would require some respect for privacy and some compassion at this time. The family GoodK pokes fun at is known by hundreds of people.

In a PM to me GoodK threatened to start posting personal information about my family if I told his/her step-father about what is being said about the family here. I can't imagine any member of that family resorting to extortion so I doubt GoodK is who he/she says he/she is. I have met the kids and they are the greatest.

Exactly what is being said about the family here? Everyone is glad that GoodK's sister in law is healing well, and that she is in recovery. No one is wishing ill will on her family. Quite the opposite, from what I can tell.

Although I do question the integrity of posting a personal letter, it is hers to post if she sees fit to do so.

She will not, however, be able to make good on her threat to post personal information about you here. If she, or anyone posts personal information about another poster, the personal information will be removed, and posting privileges of the offending party will be revoked.

If Bob decides to be a doochebag and share personal information, I will gladly post his home address, home phone number, cell phone number, and anything else I can dig up.

If my posting priveleges get revoked, I don't care. I probably spend too much time on here anyway.

[_Yoda]

If Bob decides to be a doochebag and share personal information, I will gladly post his home address, home phone number, cell phone number, and anything else I can dig up.

If my posting priveleges get revoked, I don't care. I probably spend too much time on here anyway.

Bob is not allowed to do it, either. If he does, he will suffer the same consequences.

[_GoodK]

If Bob decides to be a doochebag and share personal information, I will gladly post his home address, home phone number, cell phone number, and anything else I can dig up.

If my posting priveleges get revoked, I don't care. I probably spend too much time on here anyway.

Bob is not allowed to do it, either. If he does, he will suffer the same consequences.

Bob already did.

[_Yoda]

If Bob decides to be a doochebag and share personal information, I will gladly post his home address, home phone number, cell phone number, and anything else I can dig up.

If my posting priveleges get revoked, I don't care. I probably spend too much time on here anyway.

Bob is not allowed to do it, either. If he does, he will suffer the same consequences.

Bob already did.

Where? If he published your real life name, etc., I have missed it. Please provide me a link and I will take care of it.

[_GoodK]

If Bob decides to be a doochebag and share personal information, I will gladly post his home address, home phone number, cell phone number, and anything else I can dig up.

If my posting priveleges get revoked, I don't care. I probably spend too much time on here anyway.

Bob is not allowed to do it, either. If he does, he will suffer the same consequences.

Bob already did.

Where? If he published your real life name, etc., I have missed it. Please provide me a link and I will take care of it.

It's ok Liz. I don't need you to punish Bob for me here. Just for the record, Bob is the one that made this personal first.

[_Yoda]

It's ok Liz. I don't need you to punish Bob for me here. Just, for the record, Bob is the one that made this personal first.

It's immaterial whether or not you want to see Bob punished. If your personal information is available for public view without your permission, and he published it on this board, it needs to be removed. Please PM me if you are uncomfortable providing the link in this thread.

[_GoodK]

Bob asked me permission to post our PM, so I thought I'd save him the trouble and make sure he doesn't continue to share personal information:

Here is the PM I received, subject line is my sister's first and last name:

I've forwarded your post to ***.

If you'd like to talk in person about your difficulties with the Church, I am available. But I imagine you and *** have already had long conversations about them. You can call me at my office. *** *** ****.

I hope that Nicole recovers fully and that you celebrate that recovery.

If you'd like to forward the post to ***, I'd like to post your home address for the wacko's that lurk here to have fun with.

I'd think more careful about crossing the line if I was you...

I have already forwarded your post to *** even before my email to you. I consider him a good friend and feel badly about what they are going through. I can't imagine a family member making fun of the family at this time. In fact, I can't believe somebody would really do that to a family suffering like this and I wonder if you are who you say you are.

If you have problems with the Church I certainly would love to meet with you and go over those problems. I will listen to what you have to say. Are you still a member of the Church?

As far as my home address is concerned, I would appreciate it if you not.

Are you the same *** who visited with me, *** and Judge ***** in my home one evening?

Bob Crockett

I don't have problems with the Church. I enjoy close relationships with many people I am sure you know well.

I have a problem with religion in general, Christianity, and bigots.
I also have a problem with most critics of the church, as they are hypocrites.

And I have a problem with you, taking a post I made out of context, and making things personal.

I don't know a Judge ****, as far as I can remember.

May I post your PM to me on this Board?

Would you mind if I post your original post to me on the Board? I won't do so unless you give me permission to do so.

I think you are the *****, if I am not mistaken, who came to my home with *** for a discussion group? There were others there, including Judge ****. We met in my study. I understood you to be ***'s oldest ************(more personal information).

You really should come to meet with me and discuss the Church. I can take you to lunch if you can meet me downtown.

Bob

Any comments? Am I irrational in my frustration with Brother Crockett?

[_Chap]

Actually, Bob, I wasn't the one doing the injuring.

It is ridiculous to give credit to God for healing a disease he gave to someone in the first
place.

Interesting theology. In what sense do you believe, or why do you believe, God "gave" the disease to this person?

That profound theologian, the prophet Python, vouchsafed to us a revelation that goes some way to answer this question:


All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid--
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

If a deity made this world and put us in it, he clearly thought it was OK for us to be at the mercy of the TB bacillus, the smallpox virus, and the rest of them. Indeed it has been known for some religious believers to preach against efforts to prevent disease on the grounds that God's will was being thereby frustrated. If God is to get the credit for the roses on the cheeks of our children, why should he escape the blame if they get a dose of his nice little creatiion the meningococcus?

And, even if he did have some direct hand in its acquisition, why would doing so, to provide a learning experience for the one who had the disease, as well as to the one who exercised Christian love, charity, and concern for the welfare of another and was able to use his authority to act in the name of God to bring relief and comfort, be a bad thing? Are not most of our greatest hours as human beings manifest in times of distress, fear, darkness, and suffering?

One of the things I really like about Jewish culture, as opposed to the Christian culture that diverged from it, is the fact that it generally refuses to see suffering as in any way a good thing. Jesus was a Jew, of course, and so were his earliest followers. The stories they told about him, to judge from the Gospels, show a typically Jewish attitude to human suffering: he is not generally depicted as telling people that their hunger, their diseases or the deaths of their loved ones are any kind of 'learning experience'. Instead he at once feeds them, makes them better, or weeps at their loss and raises the dead to life. Now I don't believe he actually did those things, but I do consider that the attitude of his followers to suffering is shown in the fact that they told that kind of story about him, and I prefer that attitude to that of the 'suffering is a learning opportunity' type of Christian.

[_Coggins7]

If you'd like to move this from the realm of the internet - since you hate anonymity so much - I'll play along. Don't be a moron.

But I have nothing to be ashamed of as far as that post is concerned. I love my sister and have been worried about her all week.
I find it foul and disgusting to recieve a newsbulletin about how she has been healed through the power of prayer and the priesthood, as if God would have let her die if my family happened to pick the wrong religion.

Kiss my ass Bob.

Exposed for who and what you are eh? Tsk, tsk. What Brother Crockett is talking about here is behavior that we've seen before, using the PM function to make threats and/or engage in foul, juvenile, profane diatribes against others. I find you, goodk, to be rather typical, in a psychological and ethical sense, of the kind of exmormon bomb thrower and provocateur that one encounters on the Internet and in print; the kind of proactive, hostile exmormon that cannot leave the Church alone.

I also find you views regarding the nature of God and the LDS religion to be both mindless and juvenile.

[_GoodK]

The family GoodK pokes fun at is known by hundreds of people.

I poked fun? I expressed frustration with God getting the credit for healing someone who, by the same logic, made her sick in the first place. I expressed frustration with the idea that this horrible situation is being used to promote religion.