Should those who excommunicate teenagers be exterminated?

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The Nehor wrote:
GoodK wrote:Uck. Slimy Valley?


There's a term I haven't heard in a long time but yes.

The only things I miss are the weather, my extended family, and the beach. The rest can fall into the ocean.


Weird, I am here/there right now at work...

I couldn't live without the beach... although when I lived in Orem it was Palm trees that I was nostalgic for...
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GoodK wrote:Weird, I am here/there right now at work...

I couldn't live without the beach... although when I lived in Orem it was Palm trees that I was nostalgic for...


I go back and live in a Beach House for a bit every year to get my fix. I did call dibs on Paradise Cove for my eventual Celestial mansion.
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The Nehor wrote:
tumult wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Unless Temple Covenants are involved, excommunications rarely occur unless the person is unrepentant.


you did not live in western orange county between 1975 and 1985.


I did live right next door in Ventura County.


You were not in the Cypress Stake -
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tumult wrote:You were not in the Cypress Stake -


No, but I was also 6 at the end of the time period in question so even if I was I would likely have little to add.
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The Nehor wrote:
GoodK wrote:Weird, I am here/there right now at work...

I couldn't live without the beach... although when I lived in Orem it was Palm trees that I was nostalgic for...


I go back and live in a Beach House for a bit every year to get my fix. I did call dibs on Paradise Cove for my eventual Celestial mansion.


Ahh yes... Paradise Cove... the only place where a mobile home can go for half a million. Now that you've got me thinking about the beach, do you mind calling in a bomb threat to my office so they let us out early?
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GoodK wrote:
The Nehor wrote:
GoodK wrote:Weird, I am here/there right now at work...

I couldn't live without the beach... although when I lived in Orem it was Palm trees that I was nostalgic for...


I go back and live in a Beach House for a bit every year to get my fix. I did call dibs on Paradise Cove for my eventual Celestial mansion.


Ahh yes... Paradise Cove... the only place where a mobile home can go for half a million. Now that you've got me thinking about the beach, do you mind calling in a bomb threat to my office so they let us out early?


My uncle bought a trailer lot there a few years ago for 300K. He just sold it for over a million. Sorry, not unless you come pick me up and take me with you.
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Post by _Gazelam »

Excommunications occur so that the oaths and covenants involved are made null and void, therefore stemming the punishments associated with the breaking of covenants.

In a way this is doing more to save the individual than they know, and it definately will help themn to appreciate their covenants more when they join again.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
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Post by _Trevor »

Exterminated?

Even Colonel Klink says, "nein!"

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Post by _Coggins7 »

Step 1: convince a child that you are the authority on all matters


This clearly did not work in Merc's case


step 2: give impossible goals of personal behavior


Try to act like a civilized, moral, ethical, intelligent human being who understands he is a son or daughter of God with eternal, divine potential.

In other words, swim upstream against the pop culture. Difficult, yes. Impossible? Maybe when you're stoned, but otherwise, hardly.



Step 3: Enforce said rules via jackbooted institutionalized shunning and group separation techniques.


Evey now and then I just have to respond to Merc. Sometimes I miss the MoveOn.org type paranoia and
bombastic rhetorical flailing at mythical, totemic enemies.


Don't let them convince you that they are the authority of you and one can walk away from the abuse of Mormonism.


16 forever dude...
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Post by _karl61 »

Gazelam wrote:Excommunications occur so that the oaths and covenants involved are made null and void, therefore stemming the punishments associated with the breaking of covenants.

In a way this is doing more to save the individual than they know, and it definitely will help themn to appreciate their covenants more when they join again.


You are overuled by Spencer Kimball - read what he says about excommunication in "miracle of forgiveness".

also - the letter that came to me in the mail did not say:

"Excommunications occur so that the oaths and covenants involved are made null and void, therefore stemming the punishments associated with the breaking of covenants."
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