Mormon Church, wrong again re masturbation

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_Coggins7
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beastie wrote:
Of course, lacking any empirical evidence, Beastie can make any claim she wishes based upon nothing more than here animus towards the Church and its social teachings.


Oh, for heaven's sake, get that unattractive chip off your shoulder. Go read the study I already linked.



1. Your link says nothing about how many LDS men or woman find sex fulfilling, unfulfilling, or find it anything else.

2. One study demonstrates little, if anything. A body of empirically falsifiable and independently verified evidence would be much more compelling.

3. Fox News is a right wing, fascist, Nazi tool of the multinational corporations controlled by Bush/Hitler, Karl Rove, and Boyd K. Packer, and you wouldn't be using it at all were it not for the typical left wing obsession with, what for liberals is the overwhelmingly important subject of sex, in its various forms and manifestations.

Yes, even a victim of the seventies like Beastie will lower herself to using Fox News as a source if it fits the template.
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And in any case, the sheer facile stupidity of Beastie's OP almost defies rational digestion. The last time I checked, the Church's views on masturbation had nothing to do with preventing prostrate cancer, or ingrown toenails.

In point of fact, Beastie, as other secular liberals, has not the faintest idea what the Church's views on masturbation mean, in a deeper, spiritual sense, anymore than she understands the Word of Wisdom.
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I've already demonstrated that part of the teaching against masturbation is that it isn't necessary. See above link.

There are plenty of other studies that verify that married people are not generally having sex six times a week.

As for the rest of your ideologue blather: yawn.
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asbestosman wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:Hmmm... daily, pleasurable, health preservation exercises, or an unnecessary, potentially dangerous operation that results in a lengthy, painful recovery... one or the other... one or the other...

It's a tough choice, but I'll stick with my exercises.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. I think I shoot for the exercise thing too, but in the way that doesn't jeopardize my soul.

Hmm, daily sin to delay the inevitable shedding of this mortal coil, or faithfulness to God with a happy marriage, happy life, and happy afterlife.

It's a tough choice, but I think I'll stick with obediance.


I would be right there with ya (you know... metaphorically speaking) if I had any kind of evidence:

1) There was a god
2) He personally provided me instruction
3) He mentioned that masturbation was wrong

Doesn't it seem odd to you at all that, assuming there is a creator, he would construct us in such a way that makes us naturally want to do something that's good for our health, and then tell us (by word of mouth, no less) not to do it? What kind of sadistic mother****** would do such a thing? Is he really worth worshipping?

I just don't get this kind of thinking.

And to everything coggins wrote... ROTFLMAO!! You're an incurable train wreck, man. Some days, I pity you, but today, I just can't help but laugh. Maybe you should whack off. It might clear your mind and you'll begin to make sense here (meh... just a hypothesis. I don't really think there is a cure for cogginitis). You're suffering some major SBU over there (Sperm Back-Up™).

silentkid wrote:LOL! Too easy.


I know it. The jokes just write (right) themselves in a thread like this. :)
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beastie wrote:I've already demonstrated that part of the teaching against masturbation is that it isn't necessary. See above link.

There are plenty of other studies that verify that married people are not generally having sex six times a week.

As for the rest of your ideologue blather: yawn.



It is only you who are blathering here Beastie. talking to yourself again.

Masturbation clearly isn't necessary in either a biological or psychological sense (and much, very much, of present post sixties beliefs regarding sexuality are just as culturally conditioned as were previous puritanical concepts of sex as a necessary evil).

Avoiding masturbation, as with other forms of sexual behavior outside the boundaries set by the Lord, are spiritual and personal disciplines and sacrifices the purpose of which is to strengthen and capacitate us for a Celestial exaltation by capacitating us to live, to the best of our ability, and within the grace of Christ, a Celestial law here.

If in Taoism, every day something unnecessary or restricting is dropped, in the Gospel, every day something is both dropped and acquired; a higher law, better way of living, a discipline, greater power, greater mastery over the self, the desires, and our mortal environment. Jesus Christ was not called The Master simply as a term of obeisance. It was literally true of him.
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Coggins7 wrote: Jesus Christ was not called The Master simply as a term of obeisance. It was literally true of him.


He is the Master of His Domain?
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Masturbation clearly isn't necessary in either a biological or psychological sense


Yeah, you can always choose to accept the higher risk of prostrate cancer.

Clue to coggins: if masturbating over five times a week reduces the risk of prostrate cancer, then obviously it is doing something beneficial.
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antishock8 wrote:
Coggins7 wrote: Jesus Christ was not called The Master simply as a term of obeisance. It was literally true of him.


He is the Master of His Domain?


I don't know about that. Consider the following verse:

"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves"

Isn't the temple of god also the temple of Jesus? And since the human body is often referred to as a temple, it seems to me he's casting something out of his own body. We also know the value of sperm on the open market... a lot of moneychanging going on there.

I think this verse is a metaphor for Jesus shaking hands his little general while watching the seats of those who sold doves (hot babes).

(This logic brought to you by the good folks at Christians R Us™).
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Please save lewd comments for the telestial thread, where coggins awaits lascivious comments with great eagerness.
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beastie wrote:Please save lewd comments for the telestial thread, where coggins awaits lascivious comments with great eagerness.


Are you talking to me?
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