John Larsen wrote:That is my summation of a circular letter that went around. I don't think I have a copy anymore. Remember the Church does not like to commit this sort of stuff to permanent record.
I see several good reasons. Guidelines such as this are subject to change.
Spoken like a true sell out. Why, if the church is guided by revelation much so much always change?
God seems to be the model for second guessing.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
John Larsen wrote:That is my summation of a circular letter that went around. I don't think I have a copy anymore. Remember the Church does not like to commit this sort of stuff to permanent record.
I see several good reasons. Guidelines such as this are subject to change.
Spoken like a true sell out. Why, if the church is guided by revelation much so much always change?
God seems to be the model for second guessing.
Yes. It really is that simplistic. There is no other way to interpret this self-interpreting data.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
I didn't post a link because I don't want any more traffic on that piece of feces site than it already gets.
The new rules , or "Higher bar", as to who gets to go on a mission are there for a reason. The moral cleanlines of the elders was getting to be very sub par. While I was out they shut down part of the english mission due to the poor moral character of the sisters and the elders. It was shameful. I don't know how long that area remained closed, but it was very sad.
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. - Plato
I guess the obvious should be stated. Raising the bar had little to do with raising the moral aptitude of the missionaries. It was about covering for the fact that missionary numbers were going to go down, and they needed some way to explain this.
Gazelam wrote:This anti-mormon and his dead missionary list has gotten some great responses, heres another from a family member of a deceased missionary.......
I am a family member of one of the missionaries you list. It is so very hard to understand why you would do something like this? You honestly think that they are forgotten? You are completely wrong!!! These wonderful people are remembered everyday by their loved ones left behind. And it is very hard to believe that you yourself can be saying such cruel things, when you yourself "served an honorable mission", if that is the truth, you should understand that what you are "preaching" is wrong, and deep down in your heart you know it! When our missionary was killed, you would not believe the love and support we got from this church. Gordon B. Hinkley himself even came and spoke at his funeral along many other apostles. We still to this day, after 15+ years, receive phone calls and many visits from people he baptized and up until his death, twice a year Elder Neal A Maxwell called our family to keep in touch. I don't know what happened to you or how you were offended, but please as a family member of one of the missionaries listed, it is hard enough to live with the memory each day, but to see this cruel heartless page angers those who suffer with this each day of our lives!
They need to grieve in their own way and all but it doesn't really matter if they remember him because he's still dead. He's the one who got killed, not the family. He had value independent of his family, he wasn't an object they owned such that if they lost it and we're ok with that, then everyone else should be ok with it too. I'll bet they have some opinions of what's going on with the FLDS.
John Larsen wrote:I guess the obvious should be stated. Raising the bar had little to do with raising the moral aptitude of the missionaries. It was about covering for the fact that missionary numbers were going to go down, and they needed some way to explain this.
Yes. To create this illusion the Church has restricted more people from going. Good call.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
John Larsen wrote:I guess the obvious should be stated. Raising the bar had little to do with raising the moral aptitude of the missionaries. It was about covering for the fact that missionary numbers were going to go down, and they needed some way to explain this.
Yes. To create this illusion the Church has restricted more people from going. Good call.
Oh no--in the Church it is always the fault of the individual. If they raise the bar, it is the fault of the young people for not living up to it. Don't you know that the Church is always innocent?
John Larsen wrote:I guess the obvious should be stated. Raising the bar had little to do with raising the moral aptitude of the missionaries. It was about covering for the fact that missionary numbers were going to go down, and they needed some way to explain this.
Yes. To create this illusion the Church has restricted more people from going. Good call.
Oh no--in the Church it is always the fault of the individual. If they raise the bar, it is the fault of the young people for not living up to it. Don't you know that the Church is always innocent?
Since the Church is composed of people I guess I don't see it that way, since people aren't perfect.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Gazelam wrote:I didn't post a link because I don't want any more traffic on that piece of feces site than it already gets.
The links are for me, not for anyone else. I want to go to those pages directly so I can see the commentary and/or background information.
Links, please?
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Yes. To create this illusion the Church has restricted more people from going. Good call.
That's just it. The church hasn't restricted more people from going. Everyone who puts in papers still goes; the whole "Raising the Bar" ruse is just a cover story for fewer Mormons being available to serve missions (as the birthrate goes down).
"Finally, for your rather strange idea that miracles are somehow linked to the amount of gay sexual gratification that is taking place would require that primitive Christianity was launched by gay sex, would it not?"