What is it with trolls?
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Nehor,
So if the board rules state you can't mock the disabled you will refrain but if an apostle of the Lord BKP gives a talk and clearly states how this behavior is hurtful, cruel, wrong, against Christ, you don't care and won't follow his counsel?
~dancer~
So if the board rules state you can't mock the disabled you will refrain but if an apostle of the Lord BKP gives a talk and clearly states how this behavior is hurtful, cruel, wrong, against Christ, you don't care and won't follow his counsel?
~dancer~
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truth dancer wrote:Nehor,
So if the board rules state you can't mock the disabled you will refrain but if an apostle of the Lord BKP gives a talk and clearly states how this behavior is hurtful, cruel, wrong, against Christ, you don't care and won't follow his counsel?
~dancer~
I don't think Mormons are interested in reason. They're so used to existing in a paradoxical paradigm regarding truth claims, proofs, and behavior when confronted with something simple their minds immediately flummox the information into something unknowable.
You can’t trust adults to tell you the truth.
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Here's a paper that attempts to look at the issue academically:
Here's as academic as I get on the subject of trolls.....
- Are you scared, Dada?
- No!
Even with fairies in the woods that'll
put you to sleep for a hundred years?
- Doesn't bother me.
- Brownies?
- Dragons?
- Trolls?
Trolls that'll skin you alive
and take your face off?
Ranon!
You know I hate trolls.
I can be your guard
and carry your spear.
Me too. Me too. Dada.
What a lucky father I am. I wish
I could take you bobbins with me.
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beastie wrote:Do you even pay attention to your own words? The context of your statement is clear. You're now rewriting very recent history, and it looks pathetic.That is an agreement on this board. If a board rule was added that mocking those with sub-normal mental capacity is not allowed, I will abide by that decision. However, there seems to be a split on the board in this regard. Mercury has used the word tard to describe people lately so I think it's safe to say he has no objection (and I can't help but note no one called him on it). BCSpace seems to be okay with it. Sethbag seemed to think it wasn't tasteless. I think it's funny. I counted four people who thought it was without taste and I'm assuming most of the rest just don't care or got a mild chuckle and left it.
You were talking about "mocking those with sub-normal mental capacity" and then said there's a "split on the board IN THIS REGARD". You mentioned merc's use of the word "tard" and bC and Seth being ok with it, and you thinking it's funny. Just who do you think you're fooling by now pretending you were referring to something else????
The problem is that you accidentally admitted the truth - that you know doing what you and others do is mocking the disabled and are now trying to tap dance out of it. It won't work. Your words were clear, sadly for you.
I didn't admit to mocking them. I admitted to laughing when others did it. A fine distinction perhaps but it is there though you may judge it as equally abhorrent.
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1. I kinda find the caption on that picture that kicked all this off a little ironic. If there is anything such as a 'God', I saw 'him/her/it' in that picture. People who will have to face the kind of crap BCSpace posted up - for the rest of their lives - with next to no hope of ever escaping it no matter what they do...
...and yet somehow they can manage even a hint of a smile?!
Kind of a 'mini-miracle' right there.
Certainly far more impressive than Mormons mistaking their emotional responses for divine communication!
2. I mean - regardless - the joke wasn't actually that funny. Was it? Didn't feel much effort, thought or originality went into it. Southpark does that kinda stuff better...
3. "I hate what you're saying, but I'd die to defend your right to say it."
4. I wouldn't say any of the most 'controversial' reactions we're refering to here are particularly far from the 'norm'. (Not in my experience anyway. Humanity still has quite a ways to go I guess...)
As far as 'What is it with trolls' - I think it might be to do with increasing pollution levels in drinking water.
...and yet somehow they can manage even a hint of a smile?!
Kind of a 'mini-miracle' right there.
Certainly far more impressive than Mormons mistaking their emotional responses for divine communication!
2. I mean - regardless - the joke wasn't actually that funny. Was it? Didn't feel much effort, thought or originality went into it. Southpark does that kinda stuff better...
3. "I hate what you're saying, but I'd die to defend your right to say it."
4. I wouldn't say any of the most 'controversial' reactions we're refering to here are particularly far from the 'norm'. (Not in my experience anyway. Humanity still has quite a ways to go I guess...)
As far as 'What is it with trolls' - I think it might be to do with increasing pollution levels in drinking water.
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truth dancer wrote:Nehor,
So if the board rules state you can't mock the disabled you will refrain but if an apostle of the Lord BKP gives a talk and clearly states how this behavior is hurtful, cruel, wrong, against Christ, you don't care and won't follow his counsel?
~dancer~
I'm applying his counsel in the way I think it was intended.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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"I admit it; I'm a petty, petty man." -Some Schmo
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I didn't admit to mocking them. I admitted to laughing when others did it. A fine distinction perhaps but it is there though you may judge it as equally abhorrent.
Oh, come on. If you laugh when someone else mocks the disabled, you are mocking the disabled yourself. You just let yourself get caught by your own words and are now pathetically trying to wiggle out of it.
I'm applying his counsel in the way I think it was intended.
Unbelievable. Are you seriously saying that you think BKP would be FINE with using a picture of the disabled as part of a "joke"??? I can't believe you mean half the stuff you say, frankly.
So back to the OP - it really doesn't do any good to try and reason with someone who is engaged in either classic or diversionary trolling behavior. But other posters interpret silence as condoning. It's really an impossible situation.
I know the ignore button is very unpopular with some, but I think it is needed.
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beastie wrote:Oh, come on. If you laugh when someone else mocks the disabled, you are mocking the disabled yourself. You just let yourself get caught by your own words and are now pathetically trying to wiggle out of it.
Don't be too proud of this argument you've constructed. The ability and willingness to laugh at a mockery is insignificant next to the power of the mockery itself.
"Surely he knows that DCP, The Nehor, Lamanite, and other key apologists..." -Scratch clarifying my status in apologetics
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I know the ignore button is very unpopular with some, but I think it is needed.
You have a built in ignore button. You can recognize a name and an avatar.
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