Can a leftist be considered a faithful Latter Day Saint?

[_Tarski]

To avoid a scattergun approach, I'll take a group of issues and beliefs traditionally supported and maintained by the Left, and open this up to a critique of the possibility of harmonizing these specific traditional leftist positions on these issues with the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Excellent thread Droopy. By now, everyone can see that no one wants to defend the left in this case because everyone knows that leftist doctrine is diametrically opposed to the LDS Church.

You are just being simple minded. "The Left" is not a monolithic reality except in the mind of the ditto-head collective.
The list put up by Droopy is worse than a cartoon, worse than a strawman. It is a hodgepodge of misstated, wildly exaggerated, notions, that at best, are related to positions that are individually held by someone somewhere, but as a block, held by no one that I know of.
It is an invented, culled and then cobbled conglomerate unrepresentative in matter and spirit of any ideology in actual play. It is dishonestly dismissive of the center and slightly left of center that make up the real Democratic party. If you think Harry Reid holds, on the whole, to those views, then you are in la la land.

To describe Democrats in this way is akin the the way Ed Decker describes Mormons (which is in all more accurate). You both should be ashamed of your hypocracy.

[_Runtu]

To avoid a scattergun approach, I'll take a group of issues and beliefs traditionally supported and maintained by the Left, and open this up to a critique of the possibility of harmonizing these specific traditional leftist positions on these issues with the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Excellent thread Droopy. By now, everyone can see that no one wants to defend the left in this case because everyone knows that leftist doctrine is diametrically opposed to the LDS Church.

Give me a break. I'm a conservative Republican, and even I recognize the ridiculous caricature of Cogs's post. Come on, you guys can do better than that.

[_bcspace]

Give me a break. I'm a conservative Republican, and even I recognize the ridiculous caricature of Cogs's post. Come on, you guys can do better than that.

What is your example of something better?

[_Runtu]

Give me a break. I'm a conservative Republican, and even I recognize the ridiculous caricature of Cogs's post. Come on, you guys can do better than that.

What is your example of something better?

My example would be to actually cite some real positions of either the Democratic party (Cogs's usual target) and/or actual American liberals. That would be a start.

For example, you might look at the latest Democratic Party platform and then discuss whether an active, righteous Mormon could support it.

Seems more reasonable to me.

[_bcspace]

My example would be to actually cite some real positions of either the Democratic party (Cogs's usual target) and/or actual American liberals. That would be a start.

For example, you might look at the latest Democratic Party platform and then discuss whether an active, righteous Mormon could support it.

Seems more reasonable to me.

I don't see the word "Democrat" in the title or the OP.

[_Runtu]

My example would be to actually cite some real positions of either the Democratic party (Cogs's usual target) and/or actual American liberals. That would be a start.

For example, you might look at the latest Democratic Party platform and then discuss whether an active, righteous Mormon could support it.

Seems more reasonable to me.

I don't see the word "Democrat" in the title or the OP.

Then cite some real "leftists." You should be able to find something.

[_bcspace]

Then cite some real "leftists." You should be able to find something.

Do you disagree that the list accurately describes the left-wing?

[_Runtu]

Then cite some real "leftists." You should be able to find something.

Do you disagree that the list accurately describes the left-wing?

As others have said, Coggins is treating the left as some monolithic ideology, and then he's taking the most extreme positions imaginable and insisting they make up the mainstream of this monolithic left.

The burden is on you guys to show that people actually do hold all these positions and then that those few who do are in the mainstream of "leftist" thought.

Good luck with that.

[_moksha]

Forget leftists, can one who is not a card carrying Bircher be a Mormon?

Since when has the Church been offically coopted as a right-wing political organization?

[Guest]

Leftist, leftist, leftist, leftist, leftist, leftist, leftist, leftist ...

The blinds have enough gray matter to not talk about colours. You haven't.
(That was a metaphor only! Please don't misinterpret me! I respect blind people, I couldn't live with that defect ... )


Why do people talk things who haven't the faintest idea about?

Or did You twist deliberately the issues before listed them?

To pick one:

4. Egalitarianism. Equality of outcomes. If one achieves or gains something, all must, and no one should be allowed to advance or achieve anything faster or farther than the slowest or dullest in the group ...

A. You seem to forget the "United Order". Was it some way egalitarian? Was it appropriate (right)?

B. (True story) We have a personal acquaintance pair. The man were temple president in Xxx. During a conference in Hungary, for their hotel apartment (it was far more than a room) was paid the sum equal with 26-28 years tithe of my wife. Certainly, it was paid by the church, as they were no rich enough to pay that sum. It showed some sign against egalitarianism. Was it suitable (right, again) ?

Edited for one spelling error.