Stephenie Meyer..Church Discipline or no?
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My oldest daughter has read every copy, at least three times over. She's 13 going on 27. Without a doubt I think these novels have a de-Mormonizing effect on her... Which is why I'm so supportive.
My 10 year-old has almost finished the first book. She can't set it down. I predict a similar effect on her, too.
My 10 year-old has almost finished the first book. She can't set it down. I predict a similar effect on her, too.
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Apparently these books are all the rage among LDS young women and moms. My mom, sisters, my wife, and all of their friends are into them. My wife is on book no.3 and has made some funny comments. I guess the main character went to a prom and the author describes the dress as strapless or something like that. My wife couldn't believe an LDS writer would put that in a book, an immodest dress. Or that someone drank coffee. I just laughed (that's my TBM wife for ya). Didn't stop her from reading them though. I suspect the risque scenes, vampires, and intrigue fulfill some sort of void in the lives of every-day stay at home LDS moms. I'm perfectly okay with that. I'll even put on a cape and get some fake teeth if she wants me to!
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liz3564 wrote:I haven't heard from any of our resident fuddy-duddies.
BC? Gaz? Nehor? DCP? Bob?
Thoughts?
I'm not a resident fuddy-duddy? I'll have to try harder.
In and of itself, I find nothing wrong with having characters do wicked things, but that can be done without going into detail. For example, the scriptures talk about men performing wicked acts (murder, adultery, etc.), and I don't see a problem with it. They just don't go into detail at least when it comes to adultery. Even some seminary videos talk about fornication without the details.
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I wonder what the probabilities are that a conference talk this October (maybe just in the women's session) at least implicitly deals with reading appropriate books and making good use of you valuable time. Just a thought.
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liz3564 wrote:I haven't heard from any of our resident fuddy-duddies.
BC? Gaz? Nehor? DCP? Bob?
Thoughts?
I'm a fuddy-duddy now?
I have a friend whose wife loved the books and was enamored with them. While he had little interest, he's a smart guy. He got the books and studied them. With this knowledge he gets a lot more sex and both are happier. ;)
I haven't read the books but I doubt they're dangerous to most people. Any book that isn't dangerous to someone is probably not worth reading. As a lover of dark fiction myself (I'm in the middle of a different Vampire series right now along with other things) I will probably read it at some point.
I find it kinda nuts that Moclip's wife is complaining about strapless dresses. Does she read her scriptures? There is a story about a woman who goes out and performs lewd dances in order to seduce a man into a conspiracy of murder. There's a story about a man who is tricked into sleeping with his daughter-in-law. There's another one (I don't know why no one has made a comedy about this yet) where a man marries a veiled woman and spends his honeymoon night with her to realize he's been sleeping with her sister. Then of course we shouldn't forget the uninspired but still printed erotic song in the Bible. We're commanded to read this stuff.
Unless her books are pure pornography (which I doubt if someone is nitpicking about a strapless dress) I don't think they're harmful.
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Nehor wrote:
How do you apply this statement to the Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham or the D&C?
Any book that isn't dangerous to someone is probably not worth reading.
How do you apply this statement to the Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham or the D&C?
I think it would be morally right to lie about your religion to edit the article favorably.
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Pokatator wrote:Nehor wrote:Any book that isn't dangerous to someone is probably not worth reading.
How do you apply this statement to the Book of Mormon, Book of Abraham or the D&C?
They're dangerous by their very nature. They make no secret of this. They constantly warn the reader that knowing this stuff is dangerous.
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Anyone who thinks the church would discipline Meyer is forgetting about the "Mormon Celebrity" exception found in the super-secret Church Handbook of Instructions. You see, if you are unknown and sell a calendar with (gasp!) topless men, you get excommunicated. If you are a famous Mormon who has been interviewed by "Dry Mormon" Mike Wallace (e.g., Bill Marriott), you can be one of the country's largest purveyors of pornography and have buildings named after you at The BYU. Meyer is now a Mormon celebrity so she gets judged under a completely different set of rules.
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Equality wrote:Anyone who thinks the church would discipline Meyer is forgetting about the "Mormon Celebrity" exception found in the super-secret Church Handbook of Instructions. You see, if you are unknown and sell a calendar with (gasp!) topless men, you get excommunicated. If you are a famous Mormon who has been interviewed by "Dry Mormon" Mike Wallace (e.g., Bill Marriott), you can be one of the country's largest purveyors of pornography and have buildings named after you at The BYU. Meyer is now a Mormon celebrity so she gets judged under a completely different set of rules.
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The Nehor wrote:Equality wrote:Anyone who thinks the church would discipline Meyer is forgetting about the "Mormon Celebrity" exception found in the super-secret Church Handbook of Instructions. You see, if you are unknown and sell a calendar with (gasp!) topless men, you get excommunicated. If you are a famous Mormon who has been interviewed by "Dry Mormon" Mike Wallace (e.g., Bill Marriott), you can be one of the country's largest purveyors of pornography and have buildings named after you at The BYU. Meyer is now a Mormon celebrity so she gets judged under a completely different set of rules.
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Care to elaborate on your eloquent retort?
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