JustMe's motto--is it legitimate?

[_Sethbag]

I have observed that apostates simply love to ridicule the silliness and anti-intellectualism of believing LDS. It’s probably their favorite pasttime.

Well it's just so darn easy, and you set yourselves up for it.

[_gramps]

...he gave us a preview of the future of Mormon apologetics by introducing us to the young 18-year old high school student, Brother Smoot. (Secret: the guy has demolished all the critics' arguments to the Book of Abraham problems!) Bright future ahead, indeed, for Mormon apologetics!

Was this in one of his videos? Where can I find it? Where can I read some of this 18y.o. work?

Hi.

It was in one of his recent FAIR conference videos. But, for the life of me, I can't remember which one.

The kid had dismantled Larson and vindicated Nibley, according to the video. All, before high-school graduation. Impressive.

Edited to add: I believe it is Rommelator over on the MADness board.

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[_Jersey Girl]

Schmo,

I just scrolled back through this thread and saw your comments. I'm glad you chimed in there and I also realized I never replied to your later response.

If you want me to, I will. I got distracted from following up with you.

Jersey Girl

[_Jersey Girl]

Well, we are all waiting to see his great apologetics in action.

He has made some pretty embarrassing remarks since he has been here.

And Beastie backed him up to a wall rather quickly on Book of Mormon stuff.

So, what is he good at? He says he likes the Ostler book, but hasn't said anything about it much.

I am sure he is a nice guy though. At least, he comes across that way in his super videos!

Oh, and he gave us a preview of the future of Mormon apologetics by introducing us to the young 18-year old high school student, Brother Smoot. (Secret: the guy has demolished all the critics' arguments to the Book of Abraham problems!) Bright future ahead, indeed, for Mormon apologetics!

Again, this has nothing to do with the OP. What is with you people?

Seriously.

[_gramps]

JerseyGirl wrote:

Again, this has nothing to do with the OP. What is with you people?

Seriously.

You started taking it off line with your 'In Praise of Kerry Shirts' remarks to GoodK. You need to better follow your own posts in the thread, or perhaps stop making so many so that you can stay on top of them all.

I just followed along with your derail. You could have just sent GoodK a pm, rather than go into your song of praises for Mr. Shirts.

And, who are 'you people' ? Seriously.

As to the question in the OP? I thought it was pretty well said already. Stupid, at best.

Another one he had recently: 'Never ask why......' Go find it, Jersey Girl, and quote it for us in context. Brilliant thinking, indeed.

[_Jersey Girl]

JerseyGirl wrote:

Again, this has nothing to do with the OP. What is with you people?

Seriously.

You started taking it off line with your 'In Praise of Kerry Shirts' remarks to GoodK. You need to better follow your own posts in the thread, or perhaps stop making so many so that you can stay on top of them all.

I just followed along with your derail. You could have just sent GoodK a pm, rather than go into your song of praises for Mr. Shirts.

And, who are 'you people' ? Seriously.

As to the question in the OP? I thought it was pretty well said already. Stupid, at best.

Another one he had recently: 'Never ask why......' Go find it, Jersey Girl, and quote it for us in context. Brilliant thinking, indeed.

God almighty, gramps. You're not being honest. GoodK took it off topic with his personal remarks about Kerry.

You people are those who make a thread about the person instead of the ideas forwarded in the OP.

My posts included mention of several other posters who are able to drive a topic without devolving into personal remarks such as those of yourself and others, and praise for them as well.

I have no problem tracking and following my own posts, your posts, the OP or the posts of others, thanks very much.

[_antishock8]

So, ol' Thunderchops gripes about derailing a thread after she herself contributes to derailing a thread... And in fact, is derailing it further by complaining about "YOU PEOPLE". Methinks this is typical of this one...

I recommend you set the pulled pork sammich down, New Jersey Girl, take a deep breath, and count to ten before you post anything.

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This is what Just Me's sig line means to most who see it for what it is:

[_GoodK]

Would that be easier for you than responding to people who disagree with you?

Aren't you the one with the ignore list? I have not nor would I ever use that feature. I can handle reading responses from people who disagree with me, call me an idiot, post personal details about my life, say things I find offensive, etc...

FYI: I supported and promoted this board before it ever went online and before you were ever a part of it, GoodK.

I'm glad you've shared that information with me, Jersey Girl. I'm completely god smacked at the thought of this board existing prior to 2008. Of course I know that ;)

I have "known" some of the posters I mentioned and several others for gosh, nearly 10 years now.

Right... and 10 years ago I was in middle school. This is a watershed moment in Mopologetics ;)

The constant influx of vitriol, mocking, gossip mongering, and vindictive side shows that have recently become a large part of what constitutes this board aren't "discussions".

I don't agree with your summation of the board.

They are counter productive intrusions on discussions. I'm not degrading this board, I'm opposed to the above mentioned conditions that have become a cancer on this board.
You're free to your opinion. I, myself, almost never agree with the connections that he makes and yet, I am able to disagree with him (and others) without mocking and ridicule.

Unfortunately Brother Shirts cannot utter three sentences without mocking and ridiculing "antis" - thus my disdain for him.

I say it [Shirts is far more well read than the majority of posters on this board] because it's true.

That's ridiculous.

Is Errol Morris a poster on this board?

No.

You are again, free to your opinion, however you opinion and your dismissive posts on this thread are not a response to the ideas laid out in the OP.

My response to the ideas laid out in the original post is that the statement is absurd. I already said that. Then you accused me of :

You are proof texting via your presuppositions and personal biases. If context is not important to you, I can't help you out there, GoodK.

I saw the statement in its proper context. I still think it is absurd. To imply that religious faith (especially Christianity) is somehow noble in the absence of certainty is not intelligent. It is not indicative of being well read, to say the very least. Well, unless you are talking about who reads the most MAD magazine.

I wonder though, all this fuss about reading the quote out of context (I'm not convinced that anybody has done that, by the way) is really your fault. I mean, you chose that portion for your sigline, didn't you?

As it stands, your opinion was expressed by simple ridicule.

"Nobody's more deserving of ridicule than someone who's arrogant and wrong at the same time." Some Schmo 9/5/08 MDB

God almighty, gramps. You're not being honest. GoodK took it off topic with his personal remarks about Kerry.

You people are those who make a thread about the person instead of the ideas forwarded in the OP.

Shenanigans. I simply asked if JustMe was Kerry Shirts and then proceeded to laugh nearly to the point of tears after you confirmed it. He was the one that made the statement you chose to immortalize in your signature, correct?

[_JustMe]

GoodK

Unfortunately Brother Shirts cannot utter three sentences without mocking and ridiculing "antis" - thus my disdain for him.

Ahhhhhh........ now I understand!
O.K., well this is an easy fix.

Sentence # 1 - Daniel Peterson's article "Nephi and His Asherah," found in the wonderful read of a book, Mormons, Scripture, and the Ancient World, Studies in Honor of John L. Sorenson, FARMS, 1998: 191-243, is one of the best expositions of how the Book of Mormon reflects the genuine Ancient Near Eastern Worldview of religion I have ever seen in print.

Sentence # 2 - John Tvedtnes' incredibly well researched and well written text The Book of Mormon and Other Hidden Books, FARMS 2000, has I believe, convincingly shown how the story of the Book of Mormon has incredible ancient parallels and concepts which simply were not known by Joseph Smith's 19th century world, and which Joseph Smith (even unknowingly) got correct and accurate.

Sentence # 3 - Brent Lee Metcalfe's stunningly interesting book New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology, Signature Books, 1993, is in some ways quite brilliant book, yet deeply flawed due to preconceived notions. The authors however are tobe congratulated for attempting a dialogue while being serious about the Book of Mormon instead of merely mocking it.

There ya go GoodK. Happy now? You MORON! GRIN!

[_GoodK]

GoodK

Unfortunately Brother Shirts cannot utter three sentences without mocking and ridiculing "antis" - thus my disdain for him.

Ahhhhhh........ now I understand!
O.K., well this is an easy fix.

Sentence # 1 - Daniel Peterson's article "Nephi and His Asherah," found in the wonderful read of a book, Mormons, Scripture, and the Ancient World, Studies in Honor of John L. Sorenson, FARMS, 1998: 191-243, is one of the best expositions of how the Book of Mormon reflects the genuine Ancient Near Eastern Worldview of religion I have ever seen in print.

Sentence # 2 - John Tvedtnes' incredibly well researched and well written text The Book of Mormon and Other Hidden Books, FARMS 2000, has I believe, convincingly shown how the story of the Book of Mormon has incredible ancient parallels and concepts which simply were not known by Joseph Smith's 19th century world, and which Joseph Smith (even unknowingly) got correct and accurate.

Sentence # 3 - Brent Lee Metcalfe's stunningly interesting book New Approaches to the Book of Mormon: Explorations in Critical Methodology, Signature Books, 1993, is in some ways quite brilliant book, yet deeply flawed due to preconceived notions. The authors however are tobe congratulated for attempting a dialogue while being serious about the Book of Mormon instead of merely mocking it.

There ya go GoodK. Happy now? You MORON! GRIN!

Good work, Brother Shirts. You've exceeded my expectations.

:)