More backlash: 1,000 protesters in front of L.A. Temple

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First it was the gays, but that's OK, 'cause I'm straight...
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Then they they shut down happy hour, but that's OK, I'm on a diet...
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Then they banned sidewalk cafes, but that's OK, I prefer Postum...
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Then they banned coloured shirts, but that's OK, I was a fashion victim anyway...
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Then they banned piercings, but that's OK, I never got into that scene...
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Then they banned the World Wide We
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Re: More backlash: 1,000 protesters in front of L.A. Temple

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Dr. Shades wrote:If the Muslims had the power to influence legislation like that, wouldn't you, too, be a tad bit unnerved?

If the Muslims played by the same rules as the church would I be unnerved? No, I wouldn't be unnerved. I might be upset that what I wanted didn't happen, but I would consider it well within their rights to organize, advertise, and attempt to persuade voters.
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Some Schmo wrote:I'm assuming you're being tongue in cheek about this, but in case anyone's taking this idea seriously, I'll just point out the obvious that they are not being punished for being well-organized. They are being punished for funding the movement to stick people's noses where they don't belong.

Thing is, they weren't the only ones to fund it. They were just the most passoinate and best organized. Lots of other organizations stuck their noses "where they don't belong", but Mormons are apparently the worst for putting more of their money where their mouths are (right next to their noses, I guess).
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How sweet would it be if one of those protesters tried to open the door to the temple, and that lightning bolt from Indiana Jones lashed out and fried all those gays where they stood !!

Ahhh... one can dream can't he......
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From the NBC article:

Two people were arrested after a confrontation between the crowd and an occupant of a pickup truck that had a banner supporting Proposition 8. One demonstrator ended up with a bloody nose in the fracas.


Bwah ha ha ha !
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Gaz, you're no better than the violent protesters. You're delighting in their pain.

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Re: More backlash: 1,000 protesters in front of L.A. Temple

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With all due respect, you're missing the point.



No Shades I am not. Not one bit.

If the church had stopped at free speech, no one would've cared.



Hardly. And by the way, does free speech not include being able to promote a position that one believes and attempt to persuade and change the laws within LEGAL LIMITS and activities? I think so? Why are Mormons disallowed from such activity?
They took it many steps further, however. Rather than just making a statement and being done with it, they gave marching orders to their members,


Marching orders? They stated what the position of the Church was and encouraged members to support it. I see this as part of free speech. You on the other hand don't seem to think a Church has a right to state its position.


required donations,


Required? Hardly. Encouraged? Sure. I do not think any member will be denied a TR for not donating to support Prop 8.
and funneled lots of tax-exempt (i.e., unlevel playing-field) money into the campaign.


Do you have proof that the LDS Church actually donated money out of its coffers?
If the Muslims had the power to influence legislation like that, wouldn't you, too, be a tad bit unnerved?


There are seven million Muslims in the USA.More Muslims than Mormons. They can attempt to persuade any legislation within any legal means they wish just like Mormons and the Church did. That is America. The LDS Church did nothing illegal nor did its members.

My position stands. You are the one missing the point.
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Jason wrote:The Mormons have not acted out of hate nor have they been violent or nasty. And what of the hate being displayed by the protesters. Last I checked CA followed the procedure required for resolving issues like this. Were the Mormons the only ones who had influence over the out come?


That's just it, Jason, my friend, the ones who have the power don't in general need the visceral reaction. They can sit like supreme judges on their thrones and frown -- feel "saddened" -- and display little emotion from the comfort of their own situations. They lost nothing. They had nothing to lose. For them it was just a game. For the other side, it is a central piece of their lives and their place in the world.
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Church was interesting today. We had several "beefy" elders stationed at the doors during all the meetings.

Looks like some off ramps near the Oakland Temple were shut down today from a protest:

300 Protest Outside Mormon Temple

But it's not just limited to LDS Churches. The state capitol was the site of a protest, and a mega-church in Orange County as well:

Gay Rights Protests Continue Across California
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Re: More backlash: 1,000 protesters in front of L.A. Temple

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This is a video of a Mormon being verbally abused by No on 8 rabble.

Also, "Go back to Utah?" Mormons were involved in CA long before gays. (In fact, they were in San Francisco back when it was Yerba Buena.)
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