Harassment On Mormon Discussions.

[_Ray A]

I understand what you're saying, Gad, my ex-wife and youngest daughter worked/work in nursing. I've heard the stories, and I'm acquainted with human nature. I understand everything you and others are saying about the imbalances. And I appreciate you relating your own experience.

Ultimately what happens here isn't my problem. Life goes on. I'm only the messenger in this case.

[_antishock8]

RayA,

Your message is fine. It's worth discussing, but you're leaving out the FACT that woman are straight BITCHES toward people. damned BITCHES. But their worst vitirol is reserved for each other. They are unbelieveable toward one another. A level of toxicity I've never seen men get to. “F”, if men get to just 50% of the crap women talk about each other someone is getting shot or beat to death. I've been on both sides of their BS, and if you've ever worked or interacted with them on an extended basis the pedestal we men tend to put them on is destroyed by them.

If the women of this board don't want to post here because they're being little drama llamas, or playing the victim card... Whatever. That's on them. They'll just find some other avenue to vent their crap. If they want to stick to the issues, and address the issues... Then fine. Do it. They reap what they sow, too. If they can't see that, and want to, yet again, not take responsibility for their own actions then that's that. It's typical. The women who stick around have my respect, but it's the same kind of respect I would give anyone who sticks around. It take strength to stay on a board that has minimal moderation. Apparently, there are quite a few that lack that kind of courage.

Resist the urget to infantalize/patronize women, RayA. That's Mormonism manifesting itself.

[_Ray A]

Resist the urget to infantalize/patronize women, RayA. That's Mormonism manifesting itself.

Not really. It's a father with two daughters manifesting itself.

[_Jason Bourne]

Beastie, TD, Jersey Girl, Moniker, others

all gone.

You all know who you are. Little boys who when challenged seem to need to stoop to vulgarities and sexual body part comments. It is sad that you all have gone a long way to driving away those who make the board interesting. An un-moderated free speech board like this really requires some self restraint by its participants. It is too bad there are so many pubescent little boys here.

Try harder to be real men.

Shut up and turn on your ignore list biotch.

Case in point. But Porter, I though I was on your ingnore list.

And this is another reason I do not like the ignore. Low intelligent hostile posters like PP can put me or someone on ignore while continuing to attack and smear us. Any response from me now goes to ignore. PP is a dork, rude, nasty, makes sexual slurs as a hit and run poster against those he often puts on ignore.

By the way PP, watch it with your name calling. Some people do not always suffer fools like you gladly.

Grow up you immature little child.

Oh an by the way, I choose not to use ignore because I can deal with babies quite well. Also, if I read something I do not like I am man enough to ignore it.

[_Jason Bourne]

Oh, for f***'s sake, RayA. These women can be incredibly rude, but because they're either passive about it or clever... And in some cases, really not even that (Jersey Girl, for example). As a personal rule, I never START an ad hom with anyone. And, in fact, I recall giving posters a chance to knock it off before I give them a dose of their own medicine (Mr. Peterson, Jersey Girl). If these innocent little lambs of yours don't want to muck it up with people on the Internet, then they need to stop slinging the mud.

Frankly, I don't see the difference between calling someone a dick, an asshole, a ****head, or a c***. I'm not sure why the female's genitalia is somehow off limits, but the rest of the body isn't. That's weird. If Jersey Girl wanted to be civil, then she should have been civil; She should have apologized for being a bitch, and then resumed addressing issues. The rest of these women who continually address the person, and not the issue are guilty of harrassment, too. Charity was an excellent example of that. Harmony is, too.

Reference, Beastie. I don't really care. She got her pooper all puckered up over the fact that she was identified as being just as cultish as the Mormons she disrespects. She couldn't handle being the object of scorn, but clearly had no issue dishing it out on her victims (Mormons, Christians, Republicans, etc).

This is one of the reasons why I admire a poster like Dart. I disagree, vehemently with just about everything he embraces, BUT, under constant and withering personal attacks by pretty much everyone, he endures to make his points. And his points are thoughtful. Very thoughtful. I've learned quite a bit from this man because he had the strength of character and fortitude to withstand personal assaults, levied, in no small part, by the women who are now whining about being insulted. He made POINTS. He discussed ISSUES. He did attack character, too. He's not innocent in this. But he took what he dished out, unlike some of the little babies on this board (and a myriad of others).

Ad homs. Get used to it in life, and on the Internet. You can try to innoculate yourself against it by engaging people, or you can try to create little havens where you don't have to deal with reality. If you choose the latter, like they do over at MAD, then ultimately YOU will suffer from the lack of exchange. Your life will be myopic and strange. If you have the courage to engage others, then you develop as a human being. If you don't want to be treated like s***, then stop being a s***. If you want to discuss the issues, then stick to the issues. If you don't like someone, don't engage him or her. This is f*****g fundamentals, people. Strange that we're having a little blame game thread... Move on. They did. They'll be back. Or not. That's life. Life is fluid. It changes. People come and go. That's the deal. Sorry.

Civility to all men and women, both to and for each other tends to foster a more pleasant posting environment. This really seems to escape you for some reason. Do speak to people in real time like this? To family, children if you have any, friends with whom you may be having a vigourous discussion with, co-workers?

Sorry man but I see that more often that not it is you who are quick to name call, use vulgarity and swearing in our posts. Your treatment of DCP was debase period. It was not in return for what he gave. You constantly looked for opportunities to call him names.

It is pretty sad because I find you are fairly bright but because of you are so often uncivil I think many of your good points are ignored because they are lost in much of what you spew.

You can engage others and be vigourous about it with out much of the noise your preferred style seems to add.

[_richardMdBorn]

Yes, Dart copped a lot of criticism, but where is he?

He's posting.

[_aussieguy55]

Maybe he (Dart) is grieving about the election result while I feel elated and I am not even American.

[_asbestosman]

Dr. Shades:

This won't be solved by using the ignore feature.

I think most of us know that. What I want to do is figure out why the ignore feature isn't sufficient and what can be done to help.

If the problem is between the keyboard and the chair, there may not be much that can be done other than to pull the plug. Telling people they should be nice to each other hasn't had much success (at least not since the time of Enoch).

[_Dr. Shades]

Dr. Shades:

This won't be solved by using the ignore feature.

How can it not be?

I'm totally serious about that question.

[_antishock8]

Oh, because people have control issues. They can't control themselves, so they want to control others.

Me? Let 'em be who they are. I think the Ignore Feature can be useful for spammers. Other than that I just wouldn't click on a thread, or read someone's post.