Women and the Priesthood--Question for DCP

[_TAK]

I said nothing about BYU.

BS..

[_Daniel Peterson]

I said nothing about BYU.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Here's what I said:

I lived through the period, and was acutely, if not painfully, aware of things.

There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.

There is no mention of BYU.

[_TAK]

Here's what I said:

I lived through the period, and was acutely, if not painfully, aware of things.

There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.

There is no mention of BYU.

BS.. You referred to it..

Scottie wrote :
You seriously think, even though the entire nation was on an anti-racism movement, that BYU sports was the only reason that the church abandoned it policies? I believe it was the catalyst that started it, but there is no doubt the church was under enormous pressure, whether direct or indirect, to change the ban.

You replied in the next post:

I lived through the period, and was acutely, if not painfully, aware of things.

There was much more external pressure to change the priesthood policy in 1968 than there was in 1978.

[_Daniel Peterson]

BS.. You referred to it..

I neither mentioned BYU nor referred to BYU, and I didn't have BYU in mind.

I'm not sure why you want to insist on this, but you're wrong.

[_Yoda]

I think I could demonstrate that my perception is correct, but I don't care enough to expend the effort.

Why can't both your perception and TAK's perception be correct?

If you grew up in different parts of the US, different attitudes can prevail, even if there are some general similarities in overall societal norms.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Why can't both your perception and TAK's perception be correct?

Because, when it comes to what I said, my perception of what I said Trump's TAK's perception of what I said. And because I never mentioned BYU.

If you grew up in different parts of the US, different attitudes can prevail, even if there are some general similarities in overall societal norms.

Oh. That. I think TAK has forgotten about that.

Granted.

But I don't base my perception solely on my personal experiences in California.

[_Yoda]

I see no insuperable obstacle, either, to women holding the priesthood. But I don't know whether they ever will, whether in this life or in the next -- though I'm somewhat more confident of the next.

Interesting. I have always had this feeling as well.

This is obviously just speculation, but I wonder if the reason women do not hold the priesthood currently is because mankind is just not at a point where it can be accepted.

I have heard that the United Order will eventually be the norm, and that the reason it is not currently in place, is because man is simply not spiritually ready to live this law. Maybe the same principle exists with women and the priesthood?

[_Yoda]

Oh. That. I think TAK has forgotten about that.

Granted.

Maybe my comment will remind him.

[_solomarineris]

I think it's inevitable that attitudes toward women in the Church will continue to change as they have changed in the past, though I'm not comfortable with predicting precisely which way those changes will occur.

I don't see a female BYU president on the horizon any time soon, but don't see any fundamental barrier to it. I'm not sure whether the trend -- if the past two presidencies can be called a "trend" -- of appointing General Authorities as presidents will continue. If it does, obviously there will be no women presidents. But it may not.

I see no insuperable obstacle, either, to women holding the priesthood. But I don't know whether they ever will, whether in this life or in the next -- though I'm somewhat more confident of the next. I do believe in revelation, however, and think that such a change will come, if it ever does, by distinct divine revelation and not merely by adminstrative vote or social evolution.

I can't accuse you of having a sexist attitude. Frankly you are going alot farther than your leaders ever would at this point.
I think you do realize LDS Church is regarded as a "Laughing Stock" when it comes to gender equity. Don't feel bad however, I've seen worse, Born again Christian fundies are their own wost enemies, such as Matt Slick of CARM; the guy loves to quote Paul and stops just short of
proclaiming "WOMAN, KNOW THY PLACE".