Question re: 4th July

[_Joey]

Look Danny (and I don't mean anything personal like others here do to ya, but you really do respond/act like a little kid here a lot as you just did!),

I am really enjoyin these Utah summer days on the GC and don't want to "Martini n Post" so gotta be brief.

First, for the folks here, I actually played w a BYU admin official that Danny would know by the name of Farnsworth - a long ago collegue of mine. Even more funny - he never heard of Peterson and they both work at BYU!! (Go greatness go and check w his staff to find out who I am!!!!)

But Greatness, you gotta look at what you post and see if you can find the forest throught the trees first.

I have no idea why you bring up orthodox jews and D&Cs in the same post! Like that will ever make sense at your temple fireside or fireworks on the 4th! Perhaps, from what I remember about the density, it will at the Oquirrs!

And really, are you that ignorant/naïve to think that patriotism is based on who voted for Reagan, Clinton, Bush or Obama? I am as conservative as they come but last I concluded, patriotism is given to those who VOTE. God knows I think Harry Reid is a pure nut case, but he is still patriotic! Even in a demented state!

But it has become quite clear that you cannot separate the reality of church n state in Utah -- because it is the only State where there is no separation. I bought a place here knowing that. Why can't you admit it?

Be in Vegas w u this weekend. Me as a sponsor of UFC. You as a person invited to the first exit south of Provo! But keep ur eyes open, may come over and watch ya on that traditional day devoted to great christian studies in Las Vegas Casinos: Saturday Morning!

So all of us here will know, what publication on Sunday or Monday should we look to for coverage on you major presentation???

UFC 100 will be on every major network that nite. Well maybe not in Provo - u win there!


Anyway, back to jews and the 4th, why can't they be patriotic on Sundays???


Time to call in Watson/Hamblin eh?

[All from my bb at Glenwilde here in PC. Love these Utah summer days!]

[_Daniel Peterson]

Look Danny (and I don't mean anything personal like others here do to ya, but you really do respond/act like a little kid here a lot as you just did!),

I'm acting childishly?

Re-read the sentence above.

First, for the folks here, I actually played w a BYU admin official that Danny would know by the name of Farnsworth - a long ago collegue of mine. Even more funny - he never heard of Peterson and they both work at BYU!!

If it's Brad Farnsworth, he knows who I am.

If it's Paul Farnsworth, he knows who I am.

If it's Jeffrey Farnsworth, who works with "Evening Classes," I don't know who he is. He's just listed in the BYU directory.

If it's Troy Farnsworth, who works with "CE CW3," I don't know who he is, either, and I don't know what that is.

If it's some other Farnsworth, he's not listed in the BYU directory.

BYU has something like 1300 faculty and probably a similar number of full-time staff. Somewhere, in other words, between 2000 and 2600 full-time employees. Why on earth would you expect that we all know each other anyway?

(Go greatness go and check w his staff to find out who I am!!!!)

Am I supposed to care who you are?

I have no idea why you bring up orthodox jews and D&Cs in the same post!

I'm guessing you genuinely don't.

Rational thought doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

But it has become quite clear that you cannot separate the reality of church n state in Utah -- because it is the only State where there is no separation. I bought a place here knowing that. Why can't you admit it?

Because it's not true.

As Governor Scott Matheson and Mayor Rocky Anderson and Governor J. Bracken Lee and Governor Simon Bamberger and Governor Calvin Rampton and others make obvious.

Anyway, back to jews and the 4th, why can't they be patriotic on Sundays???

I haven't the faintest idea. That's your notion, not mine.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Republican does not equal Patriotic.

Obviously. And I didn't suggest that it does.

But remember that Joey's claim is that this most Republican of states, Utah -- which is most closely followed in its conservative Republicanism, by the way, by Idaho (another state with a considerable Mormon population) -- was, right in the middle of the time when it was giving Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush their largest percentage victories, relatively unpatriotic and unwilling to "recognize America's greatness."

Does anybody seriously believe -- leaving the merits of their policy prescriptions out of the discussion -- that conservative Republicans are, by and large, anti-American or indifferent to their country?

[_Joey]

Republican does not equal Patriotic.

Obviously. And I didn't suggest that it does.

But remember that Joey's claim is that this most Republican of states, Utah -- which is most closely followed in its conservative Republicanism, by the way, by Idaho (another state with a considerable Mormon population) -- was, right in the middle of the time when it was giving Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush their largest percentage victories, relatively unpatriotic and unwilling to "recognize America's greatness."

Does anybody seriously believe -- leaving the merits of their policy prescriptions out of the discussion -- that conservative Republicans are, by and large, anti-American or indifferent to their country?

But remember that Joey's claim is that this most Republican of states, Utah -- which is most closely followed in its conservative Republicanism, by the way, by Idaho (another state with a considerable Mormon population) -- was, right in the middle of the time when it was giving Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush their largest percentage victories, relatively unpatriotic and unwilling to "recognize America's greatness."

WTF??!! Where did Joey or anyone say this ??

And this is a person one would, or would not, want to spend a Saturday morning in a Las Vegas casino listening to explain the Book of Mormon???

I am betting less than 10 people show for his greatness. But I will now be one w a camera to prove. [Actually, so I don't get accused by his greatness of lying, I will be playing golf but have arranged for a camera picture of his speech. It was really easy to do for $40!] My advice for you you Danny: Shill, baby shill!!!!

And by the way, can you make up your mind. Am I a jackass or a buffoon ? I am having tee shirts made for your presentation and I would like to know what will sell the best. Obviously all proceeds going to the "Lets Get Interested In John Clark Book of Mormon Historicity Dinner" hosted at the Imanaivediner in Provo For The Disneydate! [Well, lotsa waterslides have now closed. Just tryin to help!]

[_Daniel Peterson]

But remember that Joey's claim is that this most Republican of states, Utah -- which is most closely followed in its conservative Republicanism, by the way, by Idaho (another state with a considerable Mormon population) -- was, right in the middle of the time when it was giving Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush their largest percentage victories, relatively unpatriotic and unwilling to "recognize America's greatness."

WTF??!! Where did Joey or anyone say this ??

On this thread, on Saturday, 4 July 2009, at 10:21 PM, contrasting 2009 with the period when he used to live in the state roughly twenty years ago (i.e., approximately 1989, right between the Reagan elections of 1980 and 1984 and the Bush elections of 1988 and 1992), Joey said the following:

Well its great to see the state of Utah finally came around to recognizing america's greatness.

It's like shooting fish in the proverbial barrel.

Am I a jackass or a buffoon ?

There's no need to choose between them. You're obviously both.

[_Joey]

It's like shooting fish in the proverbial barrel.

And this is from a guy who spends most his entire life behind a keyboard and screen!!!!! Over 5200 posts here in two years! Obviously a man's man. A real Sarah Palin find!

Would you even know what a fish is? Have you ever really fired a gun in the past year? What is a barrel? Do you ever get outside to know which way the sun sets? What is your physical activity of choice and how often? [All part of your word of wisdom bro - get with its purpose.] A keyboard and screen is a real miserable way of life.

Hey, even going to the world recognized religious capital of religion and Book of Mormon studies in Las Vegas is an improvement. I will even offer to take you out for some activity and fun if your turn out is what common sense tells us it will be!!! But at nite, would you want to go to UFC 100? I can get you in! Would do it in a heart beat for ya. Just askin for reciprocity to your Book of Mormon seminar which is probably a ticket not to be found by now!!! Can we work out a trade?

We just gotta get you out of Provo. I can help!!

by the way, Farnsworth really says he never heard of ya. But he's such a financial cus!!!!!

[_Daniel Peterson]

Grow up, Joey.

Sounds like Brad Farnsworth, formerly a finance officer in the BYU administration.

If it is, the most likely explanation is that either he's lying or you are.

And, oh yes: Your signature line takes what I said out of context and, thus, distorts what I said. And you know that. A specimen of your integrity, I suppose. As I say, I lean strongly toward the idea that you're lying.

[_harmony]

What is UFC 100? Unified Fight Club 100? Underwater Fiscal Clinic 100? United Fisticuffs Conference 100?

[_Daniel Peterson]

Unpleasant Feral Children.

It's an organization based in Las Vegas, and is Joey's primary social network.

[_Doctor Steuss]

Unpleasant Feral Children.

It's an organization based in Las Vegas, and is Joey's primary social network.

We're actually based in Henderson.

Common mistake.

(by the way, best of luck with your upcoming presentation. Hopefully one day I'll find myself in a tax bracket that will allow me to attend.)