The word is spreading

[_MCB]

http://rfmorg.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/ ... /#more-122

[_Trevor]

I am unfamiliar with this, can you or someone else explain this further?

There is a theory, that borders on conspiracy theory, asserting that BY was murdered by arsenic. I am not convinced. There are far too many blanks that have to be filled creatively to reach that conclusion and the evidence is not that great.

[_MCB]

Right. More work needs to be done on the subject.

[_Jason Bourne]

Since by scriptural doctrine plural marriage can be God authorized, there is nothing about practicing plural marriage in and of itself that would preclude the "Brighamite faction" from remaining the true Church.

Of course this assumes that the alleged revelation (which blatantly contradicts the Book of Mormon and New Testament) was really of God.

If not, which is what I have concluded, then you are out in the dark.

[_Jason Bourne]

Then again, I'm not sure why anyone would be a believing Mormon if they could not accept that the polygamy part was from God. If the prophets could be wrong about that, they could be wrong about anything. Kind of defeats the purpose of having prophets...

Sort of off topic but guess what. Biblical prophets have gotten plenty wrong. So why do you still believe the Bible?

[_thews]

Ask her if God got Joseph Smith killed to stop polygamy, why did he send an angel with a drawn sword to threaten Joseph with death if he didn't start it in the first place?

Agree.

God sounds like a real dick. Joseph was dead if he didn't start it, and then dead if he did.

The part I never got about the flaming sword is what kind of threat is death to someone who talks to God? I think if God were talking to me, I wouldn't fear death at all, in fact looking forward to going to heaven.

The whole argument to a person who thinks Joe Smith sinned with polygamy (by doing what God ordered him to do) is compartmentalizing their cognitive dissonance. Polygamy is how it works in the Mormon heaven, and Joe Smith lives on 1313 Candycane Lane with all of his wives, including the wives of other men. People are so used to Joe Smith lying that they pick and choose when he was supposedly telling the truth.

[_Nomomo]

At this rate, your wife may be out of the church before you are. I'm just assuming here.

O/T There was an ad about Ekankar in the ad section when I read the first post on this thread. Interesting that a ad about another cult would be on an exmo board.

I have no desire to hijack the thread, but would insert this correction here that Eckankar
Is not a cult. It is a science of "soul travel".

[_thews]

My sisters and SIL's don't like polygamy either. But they have all managed to forget about it and maintain the inspired view of the prophets.

Do they acknowledge polygamy is required in the Mormon heaven? Have them read this:

Mormon WOMEN, PROZAC® and THERAPY
By Kent Ponder, Ph.D.

http://packham.n4m.org/prozac.htm

About "Understanding." -- The Larger Perspective

• Some LDS women, of all shades of color, have read Eric Hoffer, who wrote that "In order for a doctrine to be effective, it must not be understood." They understand how that clearly applies to other religions, defined by us as teaching false doctrines, but then they wonder if their lifelong LDS understanding should possibly be rethought as "understanding" in quotes -- an "understanding" that constrains Mormon women's thinking and feeling to repetitive circling in tightening coils of stress and depression.

[_cinepro]

A few years ago, when we had the lesson on Section 132, a woman handed out a flyer after the class titled "Polygamy: Repugnant Then, Repugnant Now". The next week, the Bishop had to speak in the class and let us know that it wasn't an approved (or appropriate handout).

[_BartBurk]

I suspect that if Joseph Smith had actually practiced polygamy according to the way the revelation states it that polygamy would have been a relatively minor deal. If Joseph had actually gotten permission from Emma for each virgin he married, he wouldn't have married near as many women as he did. Of course the horse was out of the barn before the revelation was supposedly given to Emma. I don't think the practice of polygamy would have proved Joseph to have been a false prophet, but the way he practiced it makes it almost impossible to justify. My experience is that modern Mormon women aren't shocked by the idea of polygamy until they read the way Joseph practiced it.