Ghosts?

[Anonymous]

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[_Mad Viking]

Hell ya, I believe in ghosts. My dead relatives keep coming to me telling me that Mormonism is bunk.

I think that some of my dead realatives still believe it. That is what scares me the most about the power of mormonsim. The brainwashing may last into the next life. I've had some experiences to this effect.

Share?

[_Redefined]

Angels and demons and everything in between are accepted in LDS doctrine. I have no idea how much they interact with us beyond my own limited experience which is sadly mostly with demons. At least the stuff I am positive was some kind of spirit. It's possible angels and the rest are influencing me in minor ways regularly and often.

Don't you hate that? The demons are so much easier to see. The angels usually are sensed more subtley. Usually a sensation of light, or for me, synchronicities lining up.

I read somewhere that the reason for this is demons and negative energy is on a lower vibrational level than good spirits, and therefore closer to our dimension. This is probably just someones conjecture though. I really don't know.

Did you cast out a demon? Exorcisms rock. It's nice when you are the one being worked on or "exorsized" too. You feel so much better with the demons/negative energy gone.

Maybe people just assign the energy they feel as "demon" or "angel", and it isn't anything more than a powerful demonstration of what the human mind can sense when the body is in a state that is more aware of its emotions. My first thought to this was that I think it is good that "demons" are much easier to see. . . as in embrace your demons because if ya follow from above, then it is embracing the powerful, aggressive, dominant, commanding, driven side of yourself or of humanity rather than the "angel" side which is the docile, reflective, softer side. Both are good, but I would say that the "demon" side is more solid.

ETA. . . nothing scary about it, it's just that the raw emotion of "demon" can be more overwhelming, rather than the calm, soothing effect of "angel".

[_Simon Belmont]

You can detect the light you can't see with certain instruments. They won't show any ghosts though.

Won't they? What about light waves beyond the known spectrum?

[_Noah]

I've heard many stories about people seeing the spirits of the dead in the temple, or seeing dead relatives within the church. Can't remember where I heard it, I don't really believe it anymore, but I liked the teaching that Christ is physically inside one of the temples at any given time. I think most Mormons acknowledge that the spirit world is here with us, but interaction with it is limited.

You might find the words of Brigham Young interesting,

"When you lay down this tabernacle, where are you going? Into the spiritual world. Are you going into Abraham's bosom? No, not anywhere nigh there but into the spirit world. Where is the spirit world? It is right here. Do the good and evil spirits go together? Yes, they do. Do they go to the sun? No. Do they go beyond the boundaries of the organized earth? No, they do not. They are brought forth upon this earth, for express purpose of inhabiting it to all eternity. where else are you going? Nowhere else, only as you may be permitted." (Journal of Discourses 3:369)

Even though I'm an 'agnostic' Mormon, I think I'll always be fascinated with the Church's doctrine concerning Spiritual Progression.

[Anonymous]

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[_Tarski]

You can detect the light you can't see with certain instruments. They won't show any ghosts though.

Won't they? What about light waves beyond the known spectrum?

Huh? You mean photons more energetic than gamma rays?
Well, how do we see them and why aren't such gamma rays killing us with so much energy?


Look, every aspect of the human body even to the micro level that makes it have the appearence that it does is directly related to its adaptation to our ordinary "dirt, air and water" environment. Our eyes, teeth, feet, ears etc.
A Ghost would have no reason to look like a primate. What would a ghost do with teeth? How would it think without a brain?
The details don't fit at all.
Ghosts wouldn't be able to see us or any ordinary light at all us if they were transparent.
It is a conceptually silly notion for hundreds of interrelated reasons.

On the other hand, imagination and other perceptual/cognitive error explains everything ---period. It is no contest.

[_Calculus Crusader]

Ghosts?

No.

He didn't ask you for your entire life story. Put a sock in it already.

[_Calculus Crusader]

I think that some of my dead realatives still believe it. That is what scares me the most about the power of mormonsim. The brainwashing may last into the next life. I've had some experiences to this effect.

Share?

Are you asking him to share his chronic with you? :D

[_Calculus Crusader]

I am inclined to agree with those who think the soul rises with the body rather than floats around without it but I also affirm that "there are more things in heaven and earth...than are dreamt of in [our philosophies]."