Why is coffee not calling my name?

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Re: Why is coffee not calling my name?

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thews wrote:

So Zee, once you acquire a taste for Starbucks quality coffee you'll be hooked (that's why there's one on every corner), but I would argue it's worth it... yum.


Hey Thews if you think Starbucks is good you should give roasting your own a shot. Coffee that is actually "fresh roasted" is amazing really. Check out SweetMarias if you get time, they have all kinds of information on roasting at home, and all you need is a popcorn popper.
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just me wrote:
The worst are:

*Holy Ghost has a bedtime of midnight
*Crying or noisy children scare him away
*Laughing makes him flee
*He won't go certain places



This gave me a good laugh just me. The funny thing is the stakes in Edmonton Canada took this seriously and they told all the young adults that they had to be home by midnight because nothing good happens this late at night. One of my friends was on the YSA council and he said that he had to be an example so he would kick everyone out of his house when 11:45 hit. I just laughed and said there was no way I would follow that stupid rule.

One of my Moms favourite sayings was the holy ghost is not with you when you are speeding.

Zee, sounds like you have not drinkin enough coffee. I am actually thinking it may be ok to be addicted to coffee. When I was Mormon I would kind of avoid caffeine in general but I did notice I seemed to be more tired than my other co workers. I was the one always falling asleep in meetings. Since I stopped going I decided I would drink more caffeine so I am able to stay awake in meetings. Now I drink a lot of diet Dr. Pepper and it does really help! Although, I'm thinking straight of black coffee will be better for me and I may start this habbit. I don't really care about the taste I just want to stay awake and coffee seems to have more health benifits than diet Dr. Pepper. Coffee and green tea seems to get recommended a lot when I read bodybuilding magazines. The coffee helps with the energy and the green tean helps with staying lean.
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This thread made me realize that I haven't been bothered by the Holy Ghost since I became an apostate. I really didn't miss him because he just heaped on shame and guilt anyway. He was really good at reminding me that I was unworthy of his presence. He has no power over me now that I no longer subscribe to Mormon doctrines of fear.

This morning I invited him in for a cup of coffee. He really is a pretty cool cat when you are on more equal footing. He complimented me on a fine cup of joe. I told him to come back this afternoon and I would by him a beer.

Maybe I should start a thread, "Apostate Conversations with the Holy Ghost".
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Hades wrote:This thread made me realize that I haven't been bothered by the Holy Ghost since I became an apostate. I really didn't miss him because he just heaped on shame and guilt anyway. He was really good at reminding me that I was unworthy of his presence. He has no power over me now that I no longer subscribe to Mormon doctrines of fear.

This morning I invited him in for a cup of coffee. He really is a pretty cool cat when you are on more equal footing. He complimented me on a fine cup of joe. I told him to come back this afternoon and I would by him a beer.

Maybe I should start a thread, "Apostate Conversations with the Holy Ghost".


The Mormon Holy Ghost reminds me of the genetically engineered OCD of "godspoken" people on the world of Path in Orson Scott Card's Xenocide. I read this as a believer and instantly identified with what Qing-jao was going through (to a lesser extent, of course). I wonder if Card was drawing on his own experiences there as a Mormon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenocide#The_World_of_Path
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The Nehor wrote:I suggest you challenge him to a duel then and see how it works out for you.

I'll accept that recommendation!

I hereby challenge the HG to a duel by the end of this Sunday, at any time of his choosing.

I assume, if he isn't "a pansy," he'll manifest himself and teach me otherwise.

If I survive, I'll return and report on Monday.

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why me wrote:
And yet the Holy Ghost does depart from unholy places. (see Ps: 51.11



I don't know how you are reading this verse. (?) This Psalm is singing the praises of God and is a petition for forgiveness. Verse 11 is asking God to turn His face from the sin that has been committed and erase the sinners guilt. Verse 12 goes on to ask God for a clean heart and a renewal of spirit.

But does god? Maybe not but the verse also says that he can cast us away from his pressence.


The Holy Spirit is God.

From the Letter of St. Paul to the Romans

Chapter 5

Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access (by faith) to this grace in which we stand, and we boast in hope of the glory of God.

Not only that, but we even boast of our afflictions, knowing that affliction produces endurance, and endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out into our hearts through the holy Spirit that has been given to us.

For Christ, while we were still helpless, yet died at the appointed time for the ungodly. Indeed, only with difficulty does one die for a just person, though perhaps for a good person one might even find courage to die. But God proves his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.

How much more then, since we are now justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath. Indeed, if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, how much more, once reconciled, will we be saved by his life.

Not only that, but we also boast of God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world, and through sin, death, and thus death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned -- for up to the time of the law, sin was in the world, though sin is not accounted when there is no law.

But death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin after the pattern of the trespass of Adam, who is the type of the one who was to come. But the gift is not like the transgression. For if by that one person's transgression the many died, how much more did the grace of God and the gracious gift of the one person Jesus Christ overflow for the many.

And the gift is not like the result of the one person's sinning. For after one sin there was the judgment that brought condemnation; but the gift, after many transgressions, brought acquittal.

For if, by the transgression of one person, death came to reign through that one, how much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of justification come to reign in life through the one person Jesus Christ.

In conclusion, just as through one transgression condemnation came upon all, so through one righteous act acquittal and life came to all. For just as through the disobedience of one person the many were made sinners, so through the obedience of one the many will be made righteous.

The law entered in so that transgression might increase but, where sin increased, grace overflowed all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through justification for eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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why me wrote:
madeleine wrote:IMNHO it is one of the cruelest things that Mormonism teaches people.

The Cross is the greatest evidence that God is not scared off by our sins (real or imagined).

Peace.


But he is disappointed. But then again, do you think that the Holy Ghost or spirit is in a porn emporium? And if so, what is he doing there?


A person cannot hide from God in a "porn emporium".

God waits for the person's heart to turn to Him, He never ceases calling to anyone.

Peace.
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Buffalo wrote:The Mormon Holy Ghost reminds me of the genetically engineered OCD of "godspoken" people on the world of Path in Orson Scott Card's Xenocide. I read this as a believer and instantly identified with what Qing-jao was going through (to a lesser extent, of course). I wonder if Card was drawing on his own experiences there as a Mormon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenocide#The_World_of_Path


I hated that book, the most tedious thing I ever read.
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café crema wrote:
Buffalo wrote:The Mormon Holy Ghost reminds me of the genetically engineered OCD of "godspoken" people on the world of Path in Orson Scott Card's Xenocide. I read this as a believer and instantly identified with what Qing-jao was going through (to a lesser extent, of course). I wonder if Card was drawing on his own experiences there as a Mormon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenocide#The_World_of_Path


I hated that book, the most tedious thing I ever read.


Yeah, I didn't much like it either.
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zeezrom wrote:
gramps wrote:Let me know what you think. Of course, it is best on Sunday morning instead of church with your lover in bed with your New York Times Book Review. That is a really nice morning. Cheers

Dear Gramps,

Let me just say that after chat last night, I have renewed respect for you. I was LOL'ing pretty hard and I needed that. Thanks!

OK, I'll have to try your idea.

Don't think I hate the taste of coffee. I actually really like it - without sugar or cream. I also like a nice dark beer. My current problem I face is sugar and carbs. I'm hooked and I can't get away from them! Stay away from me pie! But we love pie. No! get away! But we loves it, we do. No!


Here's what I do, not being as ambitious as Gramps in the manana...add Silk chocolate soybean milk light to my coffee. I just added some cinnamon to the half a cup I'm sitting here with. Wow! Thanks, Gramps. I'm going to buy some cardamon too.
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