The way sins are rated

[_just me]

i couldn't agree more. My humility is way beyond anyone here.

That reminds me of Numbers 12:3, where it says that:

Now Moses was a very humble man, more humble than anyone else on the face of the earth.

The funny thing about this verse is that there are plenty of Christians who think that Moses wrote the Pentateuch! Which would mean we have Moses himself bragging about how he is the most humble person on the planet!

lmao

[_Longshot]

Nice list. I don't agree. This is my interpretation of the sin rank system, one being the worst.

1. Stop believing in the LDS church
2. Porn
3. Gay Sex
4. Same Sex Marriage
5. Alcohol
6. Coffee
7. Masturbating
8. Tattoos and piercings
9. Pre Marital Sex (hetero)
10. Reading "anti-Mormon" literature

See, gambling didn't even make the top 10.

11. Not paying tithing
12. Child Abuse
13. Abortion
14. Being Inactive-Not keeping the Sunday Holy
15. Bikinis and tank tops
16. Victorias Secret (looking at the catalog is worse than wearing the stuff)
17. Not Home or Visiting Teaching
18. Gambling
19. Rated R movies
20. Tea
21. Failing to pray and read scriptures daily
22. Failing to hold family home evening


I didn't know where to put murder on the list. It really is assumed that people aren't going to do that. Obviously, it is seen as the worst thing you could do along with torture and rape and stuff.

I am very shocked at how low child abuse is on your list. You think drinking is worst then child abuse? I think that is just wrong .

[_Blixa]

I am very shocked at how low child abuse is on your list. You think drinking is worst then child abuse? I think that is just wrong .

It helps to read in context. This is just me's "interpretation of the sin rank system" of everyday Mormonism, not just me's own ranking of human problems.

[_just me]

I am very shocked at how low child abuse is on your list. You think drinking is worst then child abuse? I think that is just wrong .

It helps to read in context. This is just me's "interpretation of the sin rank system" of everyday Mormonism, not just me's own ranking of human problems.

This. I know child abusers in the church who have gotten not much more than a slap on the wrist. It doesn't seem to be that serious of a sin in Mormonism....it certainly isn't given much lesson time.

My list would be much, much different than what I posted. Rape, abuse, torture, murder would all be at the tippity top.

[_The Nehor]

It seems to me that for a Deity based reward and punishment system to work, behavior must be quantified, rated and tallied in the end. How could it be otherwise?

I expect to be judged more on what I am rather then what I have done so no tallying needed. I am the Book of Life for my life.

It also seems to me that the person or committee doing the judging, isn't actually judging, they are simply adding up the numbers and passing sentence.

I expect it will be more a discussion with the defendant about what would be best for them.

I mean, it's not like a trial court judge who hears the evidence and makes a *judgment call* based on a preponderance of the evidence.....who could be having a bad day.

This is true.

In order for a perfect fairness for all, this judge must render with neither mercy nor austerity, but simple math.

There is that whole atonement thing specifically to show there will be mercy.

Anybody with a calculator could do it.

Nope.

Faith, actions, in-actions, thoughts, intentions, death bed confessions can all be given weight if you like.....but all must be quantified and a number assigned.

Nope.

The problem being though, There can be no Grey area. Kingdom entrance levels must be set, and a person could miss making the cut by a billionth of a decimal point. Dang I says....I knew I shouldn't a had that last coke.

If God were anything like you imagine I can't believe I could love Him.

[_Longshot]

I am very glad that people do not follow the "rule" that you should not work on Sunday. People like policemen, firemen, nurses, and doctors, where would we be if they did not "sin" every week.


I am also thankful that all those police and soliders, past and present break the "rule" about not killing. What kind of world would we live in if all the allied forces in world war 2 followed that rule.

Seems like these "rules" were not made by an all powerful all knowing omnipotent being.

[_Dantana]

I expect to be judged more on what I am rather then what I have done so no tallying needed. I am the Book of Life for my life.


There is that whole atonement thing specifically to show there will be mercy.

We play a silly little card game at home here called "thirty one". Everybody gets three quarters/coins. When one loses their coins they are out of the game.....unless they are granted *grace* by the remaining players. In which case they are back in the game until they lose again. To me though it makes no sense. I mean, why not then just start out with everyone having *four* quarters* instead? No one ever is denied *grace*.....whats the diff?

So, In a judgment system can god possibly grant grace to who he will indiscriminately? Or, MUST god simply compute a valuation scale based on a quantification and rating of behavior?


So, either god/someone is rating behavior, or god/someone is somehow looking into a persons *heart* to determine their worth.
How exactly does God look into a soul? My first reaction is; How does God take a snapshot of a soul mid-stride? (think Heisenberg uncertainty principle) It would be like me trying to judge "dancing with the stars" from a still photograph. According to Eckart Tolle, the past is a memory, the future is a concept, we exist in the now. As soon as one takes a snapshot of the now....it becomes the past.

What I'm trying to get at is, God can't determine the exact makeup of a souls true intent or worth, he can only look at their trail. Their record. He can make an educated guess as to what their next move will be based on their past, but it can NEVER be truly accurate. Because if a person does truly have *free will* they could change their behavior the very next moment subsequent to god deeming them nonredeemable.

Furthermore, accepting that God can read peoples minds/thoughts, those thoughts are always in the past, AND thoughts are NOT the soul......If we are NOT our thoughts, what are we? and how exactly can God take a snapshot of IT?.....by some means other than simply assessing it's history?


Curt