moksha wrote:Don't evangelicals tend to eat up the weird black board theories and politics of Glenn Beck? My guess is that part of the Beck demagoguery is of more importance to them than whose religion has the truest Jesus.
I agree with the point ezravan makes, my dads a beck fanatic and he's also a Christian, When the world sees who/what Christians associate themselves with they think that this is somehow Christ's mission and his doing... To save the world through politics. Christians change the world bye loving and preaching the gospel.. it's the only tools we were sanctioned to use. We shouldn't associate our christian name with movements in politics. It's perfectly fine to act as a citizen, just don't blame God that your a tea party'r.
moksha wrote:Don't evangelicals tend to eat up the weird black board theories and politics of Glenn Beck? My guess is that part of the Beck demagoguery is of more importance to them than whose religion has the truest Jesus.
I agree with the point ezravan makes, my dads a beck fanatic and he's also a Christian, When the world sees who/what Christians associate themselves with they think that this is somehow Christ's mission and his doing... To save the world through politics. Christians change the world by loving and preaching the gospel.. it's the only tools we were sanctioned to use. We shouldn't associate our christian name with movements in politics. It's perfectly fine to act as a citizen, just don't blame God that your a tea party'r.
Rambo wrote:ok I have read a little bit of the site and already I have come across some interesting stuff.
You know the s*** you write actually kept me in the church for a long time. This was the only so called "anti Mormon" stuff I came across when I went on a mission and I thought it was laughable. I thought evangelical anti Mormon material was all the anti Mormon material and I thought I saw it all. This kind of website actaully kept me in the church longer.
Anyways, I came across this.
The prophets and apostles of the LDS have taken on this belief of Joseph Smith kicking Christ’s ass in saving the world.
You may find some random quote in the past but this was not taught while I was growing up. No way in hell did I think Joseph Smith kicked christs ass. What kind of language is this from a christain anyways? Do you think Jesus would talk that way? Do you try to do what Jesus would do?
uh.. I'm sure he was using Joe Smith's boast that says something like, not even Christ kept a church togather like me... ah crap let me find it.
“I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam... Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.” (History of The Church, 6:408–409.
uh.. yep. seems to say Joe kicked Christ's ass. Sorry they kept that from you rambo... maybe if you would have found this site you would have left earlier.
oh, and if you want I'll show you some cuss words naughty language in the Bible. Just don't tell my mom.
Rambo wrote:In the "Glenn Becks Cross" article you say this.
If your a Christian, especially one who knows about Mormonism, they will play down the fact the fact that you have to obey the Sabbath (which seems to be on the wrong day for Mormons) pay tithes, temple rituals and rights, to be declared worthy to go to big poppa in the sky. Or worthy for even forgiveness (that's a whole ‘nother topic).
Do Christians not have to keep the sabbath day holy?
Mormons have the sabbath day wrong? You may be confused with 7th day adventists.
ah nope. The New Testament nowhere commands Christians to observe the Sabbath. we are not respecters of days.
Galatians 4:9-11 9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable forces[a]? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? 10 You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! 11 I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.
Christ fulfilled the sabbath rest and now we rest in him.
If Mormons really kept the sabbath they would worship on the day God almighty commanded. Another boo boo of Joseph smith, apparently his Jews from thousands of years ago were keeping the Christian day of worship. Sunday. Not the holy day of the Sabbath, saturday.
mormonx wrote: uh.. yep. seems to say Joe kicked Christ's ass. Sorry they kept that from you rambo... maybe if you would have found this site you would have left earlier.
oh, and if you want I'll show you some cuss words naughty language in the Bible. Just don't tell my mom.
Well I was told all my life that these quotes were not reliable and they were anti Mormon lies. Plus when I came across sites like these I had no problem with what they were saying because most of it was true. I had no problem with becoming a god cause I thought that would be cool and I liked the idea of god having sex with Mary. Most of the stuff I read on this website would not help me leave Mormonism because I believed we had the truth. If you christians really want to help Mormons leave Mormonism create sites that show the real history like Joseph Smith banging girls behind his wifes back or the problems with the Book of Abraham. If I read Mormons believe that Satan is our brother. I had no problem with that because that is what I was taught and I thought it was funny that christians had a problem with it.
Rambo wrote:ok I have read a little bit of the site and already I have come across some interesting stuff.
You know the s*** you write actually kept me in the church for a long time. This was the only so called "anti Mormon" stuff I came across when I went on a mission and I thought it was laughable. I thought evangelical anti Mormon material was all the anti Mormon material and I thought I saw it all. This kind of website actaully kept me in the church longer.
Anyways, I came across this.
The prophets and apostles of the LDS have taken on this belief of Joseph Smith kicking Christ’s ass in saving the world.
You may find some random quote in the past but this was not taught while I was growing up. No way in hell did I think Joseph Smith kicked christs ass. What kind of language is this from a christain anyways? Do you think Jesus would talk that way? Do you try to do what Jesus would do?
I'm sorry you feel that way. I was quoting Joseph Smith boast which certainly does say he kicked Christ's ass. There is no prohibition of cuss'n in the Bible, only lude (however you spell it) language.. dirty sexual speak.
I didn't really write this for Mormons, I wrote in mainly for christians that have no experience in Mormon ways and history.
ezravan wrote: I'm sorry you feel that way. I was quoting Joseph Smith boast which certainly does say he kicked Christ's ass. There is no prohibition of cuss'n in the Bible, only lude (however you spell it) language.. dirty sexual speak.
I didn't really write this for Mormons, I wrote in mainly for christians that have no experience in Mormon ways and history.