why me wrote:So, if we have guys like you cowboying it in the lesson and we multiply the cowboys by 1 million, we can see a problem which Paul was experiencing. Thus, the LDS church says stick to the manual as the basis for the lesson. It does make sense.
But at what price correlation?
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
And the reason for this is to have a church that is of one mind. As i have stated to have 1 million cowboys going it alone in the lesson using their own materials only creates a division in the church as people learn different lessons in the chapters.
The LDS church doesn't want a paul experience where poor paul is spending a lot of time keeping the church together as the early members pick and choose who they want to follow and what they are learning, creating divisions in the church.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
My wife thinks that correlation came into being so in case someone visited a different ward they would still be on the same lesson. Why that is important is not clear.
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
why me wrote:For paul the church needed to be of one mind.
For Paul, the church needed to be of his mind.
;^)
It depends who you think Paul was. If he was just a guy then maybe yes. If he were an apostle acting in behalf of god, then no. But he certainly had a problem with cowboy members spouting off this and that. And then of course, we have the early church in the Book of Mormon. Same problem with cowboys.
So, it seems like it is a good policy to harness the cowboys such as yourself. Now that doesn't mean that you can't use outside material that supports the material. But the lesson should be mainly in the lesson manual.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
consiglieri wrote:I am also going to look for Hugh B. Brown's commencement address in which he said something along the lines of, "We are not so much concerned what you think as that you have thoughts."
And the quote I remembered was actually better in the original. "We are not so much concerned whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox as that you should have thoughts."
This should be a good counterpoint to cinepro's article.
All the Best!
--Consiglieri
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
MrStakhanovite wrote:Sounds like somebody is putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.
Or the lunatic in charge of the asylum.
To be honest, these meetings are way too tame to be compared to an asylum, I’ve seen more emotion and activity from people in a coma than Mormons getting yet another lesson.
In any case, I’m intrigued at the possibility of some cloak and dagger politics. Are you suspected of heresy?
why me wrote:So, it seems like it is a good policy to harness the cowboys such as yourself. Now that doesn't mean that you can't use outside material that supports the material. But the lesson should be mainly in the lesson manual.
So far I have a quote from D&C 88 about using the "best books," a priesthood manual by Hugh Nibley, and a commencement address by a member of the First Presidency.
How am I doing so far?
And what do you have against cowboys, anyway?
Yee-Haw! Brazos!
All the Best!
--The Waco Kid
You prove yourself of the devil and anti-mormon every word you utter, because only the devil perverts facts to make their case.--ldsfaqs (6-24-13)
Fence Sitter wrote:My wife thinks that correlation came into being so in case someone visited a different ward they would still be on the same lesson. Why that is important is not clear.
To prevent divisions in the church. Be of one mind is what the Bible claims. And this brings peace within the church. An example: the church of england or the episcopal church. Not to mention the lutheren church with its many divisions from within.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith